Transcript: Executive session, 2026-01-06
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- 0:00:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Good afternoon everyone and welcome to the January 6, 2026 executive session of the Clarksville
- 0:00:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript City Council. First item on our agenda is the Planning Commission Report. Mr. Tindall-Pleaser,
- 0:00:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the first item under that Planning Commission Report is Ordinance 40-2025-26. Mr. Tindall-Pleaser.
- 0:01:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor. Good evening, City Council. As you can see, our Planning Commission meeting was
- 0:01:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a while ago and I'll refer to my notes tonight. The first request tonight is Planning Commission
- 0:01:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Case Z-49-2025. This is three parcels currently zoned R2 and requesting to go to R3. It's the
- 0:01:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript application of Jonathan Blick. The properties are three separate parcels, first fronting on the
- 0:01:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript north frontage of Hickory Grove Boulevard and the south frontage of Elwood Drive and the remaining
- 0:01:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript two are on the north frontage of Hickory Grove Boulevard. The properties are three separate
- 0:01:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript parcels, two parcels are located at [address omitted; hear it in the video at this time] and 400 and a half Hickory Grove
- 0:01:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Boulevard. It's a small group of parcels bisected by Hickory Grove Boulevard with a moderate slope
- 0:01:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and trees. This is in Council Ward number six. This is in the South Clarksville Planning Area.
- 0:01:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The applicant statement is to match the R3 zoning in the area for single-family infill development.
- 0:02:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is on the border of the urban neighborhood in the orange and the
- 0:02:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript suburban neighborhood planning areas in the South Clarksville Planning Area
- 0:02:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of the comprehensive plan. And here's the current zoning. You can see a lot of the existing R3
- 0:02:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript along Cumberland Drive and Woodmont and the other roads around there and more to R2 to the west,
- 0:02:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript R1 to the south across the road. So the one parcel is this triangular parcel you're looking at
- 0:02:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript between the intersection of both roads. This is Elwood looking at the intersection of both roads.
- 0:02:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Looking back to Hickory Grove, parcels on the right, and that's looking up towards Elwood and back at it again.
- 0:02:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Then across the street to the left are the other two parcels that are requested with this zoning.
- 0:03:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There they are. There's one home on it and the trees on this property. Department comments and
- 0:03:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript concerns. No traffic assessment was required since it was below the threshold. They must
- 0:03:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript follow the city access ordinance for driveway.
- 0:03:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Locations on Elwood sidewalks will be required and drainage easement. There is a drainage easement
- 0:03:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript through the middle of one property that will have to be addressed during subdivision. It can be moved,
- 0:03:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript platted, adjusted. It might be able to be worked with. They'll just have to work when they subdivide
- 0:03:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the property on what to do with that drainage easement in the property. There were no other
- 0:03:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript department comments or concerns. The school system listed their capacities of the schools there listed.
- 0:03:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Historic estimates would put
- 0:03:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this at approximately 14 units a little difficult to calculate with some of the irregular sizes but
- 0:04:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript based on the acreage 14 lots staff does recommend approval the request is consistent with the
- 0:04:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript overall goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan these parcels are designated suburban
- 0:04:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript neighborhood in the future land use plan which supports limited attached housing and increased
- 0:04:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript density along major transportation routes hickory grove boulevard functions as a collector street
- 0:04:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript serving the major transportation route for the area the request is located within 500 feet of a
- 0:04:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript designated neighborhood node an area that identified in the comprehensive place sorry
- 0:04:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript comprehensive plan as a place appropriate for increased residential density and targeted
- 0:04:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript neighborhood scale commercial investment increased residential density through infill and redevelopment
- 0:04:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is most appropriate in areas with well-connected street networks existing infrastructure and
- 0:04:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript convenient access to goods and services such as the south corner
- 0:04:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript parksville planning area the planning commission also recommended for approval
- 0:04:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript thank you mr tyndall councilman holloman you're recognized thank you mayor uh mr tyndall so it's
- 0:05:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript 14 units under r3 how many units could they get at r2 based on that acreage two acres
- 0:05:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and we typically say r2 r2 comes in a little over two units an acre so
- 0:05:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript six maybe seven um depending on how they divide it up so it's a pretty big pretty big jump
- 0:05:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript could be um gotcha they're deep parcels uh we did not see a plan yet on how they want to do that
- 0:05:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript i'm sure the applicant can explain a little better what their yield might be but we've not seen a
- 0:05:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript final sketch of it too small too small to put a new public road in so these would be frontage lots
- 0:05:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so that may also cut down on it a little bit okay all right thank you councilman smith you're
- 0:05:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript recognized thank you mayor uh thank mr tyndall for sharing this information my concern is um were there
- 0:05:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript any oppositions from any of the people that live in that area we did not have anyone at the planning
- 0:06:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript commission attend the meeting we have no letters in the packet and also thank you um these homes
- 0:06:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you said going to be single family now i noticed that when we said single family i'm looking at
- 0:06:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript some of the ones on cross and avenue they're joined together so are these going to be single
- 0:06:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript family i i thought single family was you know single uh not uh joined together r3 will allow
- 0:06:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for either single family duplexes or triplexes they're going to be single family duplexes or triplexes
- 0:06:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but you need more land for the duplex or triplex the way it's scaled right now is that you need
- 0:06:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript more considerably more land for a triplex than two or three single family houses based on the frontage
- 0:06:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they have there i would expect this to be single family homes that's what the developer expressed
- 0:06:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript at the planning commission but i think that's a fair question for thursday night okay and also um
- 0:06:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript well are they going to put sidewalks in the road it's going to be widened because you know it's
- 0:06:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript very narrow over there what it is
- 0:06:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript going to do about the traffic turnings and turnouts is the fire department going to be
- 0:07:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript able to get in there or whatever we need for emergency service to turn around is so narrow
- 0:07:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript over there i'm very well aware of that area the fire department did not provide any objection to
- 0:07:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this request hickory grove boulevard is a decent width out there and it even has a middle painted
- 0:07:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript yellow line if the street department determines that subdivision that we need another foot or two
- 0:07:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they'll be required to do that curbing and sidewalk will be required when they build the
- 0:07:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript frontage lots i don't anticipate a new side road these will likely be shared driveways or front
- 0:07:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript back to that picture where they're going to be sitting so you're going to have sidewalks
- 0:07:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on the right side there and on the left side around the corner let's get to so this side
- 0:07:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on the right side will have sidewalk on elwood and then down to here the corner sidewalk this
- 0:08:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript already has curb on the north side of the road sidewalk there and on the left side of the road
- 0:08:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in front of the lots as they're developed okay all right thank you councilman mclaughlin you're
- 0:08:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript recognized thank you mayor uh mr tyndall on the small piece of property that's in the triangle
- 0:08:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript shape what would be the maximum amount of of units that could fit on that tiny parcel
- 0:08:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript maybe two and we're not sure about that either so two single family houses likely one that's where
- 0:08:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that drainage easement is that they'll have to work around so it may just allow for one on that
- 0:08:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript parcel because of setback in the drainage correct okay thank you other questions or comments
- 0:08:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript regarding this ordinance next item is item b ordinance 41 2025-26 mr tyndall thank you mayor
- 0:08:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this is application z50 2025 this and the next application z51 are both by fonda malone and i'll
- 0:08:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript i may refer to both properly
- 0:09:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and i'll refer to both properly
- 0:09:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript between the two but we'll take questions independently here
- 0:09:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this portion that you see in front of you here is 1.23 acres it's requesting to go from ag
- 0:09:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript agricultural to r5 residential it's a parcel fronting the north frontage of whitfield road
- 0:09:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript approximately 200 feet north of whitfield road kneeboard need more road roundabout this is in
- 0:09:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript council ward number nine in the st bethlehem planning area the applicant statement is to
- 0:09:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript build affordable housing
- 0:09:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and there it is you can see glenn ellen school across the street
- 0:09:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this is the comprehensive plan future land uses this is in the suburban neighborhood section you
- 0:09:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript can see mixed residential in the darker yellow and the commercial and the red along the street
- 0:09:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there with the school in blue here's the current zoning map i always joke about this area has just
- 0:09:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript about every zone we have in a quarter mile out here you in the past the city council has approved
- 0:09:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript two R5 zonings to the north there in the orange and this parcel was just another piece to the
- 0:10:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript south there so it would all join together potentially. The next request you're also
- 0:10:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript going to see is this a small corner to the south of this. It does touch this piece of property and
- 0:10:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we'll talk about that one next. So that's this parcel. It does have a home on it and a driveway
- 0:10:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript access. There's a beautiful new sidewalk provided by the city of Clarksville out there across from
- 0:10:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Glen Ellen. There's the driveway access just north of the roundabout. City street sorry utility
- 0:10:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript department said gravity sewer main extension will be required to reach this property.
- 0:10:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The street department said a traffic assessment was required for this parcel and the other parcel
- 0:10:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we're going to talk about. They did a combined traffic study because it's the same owner just
- 0:10:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript two different requests. Due to its proximity to the Whitfield roundabout the traffic assessment
- 0:11:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript was reviewed and accepted by this Clarksville
- 0:11:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Street Department.
- 0:11:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No other department comments or concerns. The driveway location will be addressed by the
- 0:11:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Clarksville Street Department at future site plan depending if this parcel does get developed with
- 0:11:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript other parcels in the area. This parcel does have an access that they can use. We'll obviously want
- 0:11:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to move that away from the roundabout as far as possible during site review. The school system
- 0:11:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript noted their capacities of their school system listed. The applicant's request is that they
- 0:11:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Charged for duty to a student-sanal staff不好意思 process.
- 0:11:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's a second statement was
- 0:11:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is theull with the parcel next to it that parcel right here would be fourteen total townach
- 0:11:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript are 5 permits the staff does recommend approval this request is consistent with the overall goals and
- 0:11:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript objectives of the comprehensive plan. This parcel is designated suburban neighborhood in the future land use plan which supports limited attached housing and increased density along major
- 0:12:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript transportation routes need more road functions as an arterial and Whitfield
- 0:12:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript functions as a collector Street both serving as major transportation routes
- 0:12:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for the area the adopted comprehensive plan supports increased density near
- 0:12:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript areas where schools and commercial uses are especially we're supporting
- 0:12:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript infrastructure such as sidewalks and pedestrian facilities are in place or
- 0:12:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript will be provided as part of the development the Planning Commission also
- 0:12:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript recommends for approval Thank You mr. Tyndall any comment or question
- 0:12:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript councilman Smith you recognized thank you mayor what did you say the school
- 0:12:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript system say it about the capacity because the count yeah they've got the
- 0:12:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript capacities of Glen Ellyn a hundred and six percent with five portables in use
- 0:12:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Northeast middle at ninety percent in Northeast high school at eighty percent
- 0:12:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript neither no portables at Northeast high school six portables in place at
- 0:12:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Northeast middle school so it's gonna make it over loaded again it's already at
- 0:13:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript capacity
- 0:13:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because you know we're gonna bring in those units it's just gonna flood the
- 0:13:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript school so I guess we have to bust them out somewhere change the zone I guess I
- 0:13:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript don't know but thank you councilman Streetman you recognized thank you mayor
- 0:13:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript mr. Tyndall and it says of course thirty five units combined adjacent which
- 0:13:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript adjacent lot is it referring to yeah I'll just jump ahead it's this parcel to
- 0:13:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the south here and it's additional point three acres but of course that one I
- 0:13:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript know we're gonna be doing it next that one
- 0:13:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is
- 0:13:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript c2 and they've stated they want commercial retail we um i understand we're not to that one yet but
- 0:13:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if it's referencing it um that's why i was asking the question i'll gladly ask it again once we get
- 0:13:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to the next one thank you councilman brown you're recognized on this one thank you mayor so this one
- 0:13:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to me is an extension of the current r5 and they may work together with the owners of that one
- 0:14:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to kind of combine it but the capacity of glen ellen elementary the time frame that this is going
- 0:14:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to take to build and prep and everything do you know a time frame on the is it the freedom
- 0:14:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript elementary up there up by the airport road area freedom elementary is slated to open this fall
- 0:14:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and there is a rezoning that will go into place that i'm not sure if it goes as far to alleviate
- 0:14:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript glenn
- 0:14:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript ellen it may touch some of the outer corners of it but it's it's going to be a ripple effect from
- 0:14:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the north west corner of town through like barker's mill and hazelwood and pisgah especially
- 0:14:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in west creek that's going to really um and ringgold it's going to affect those schools a
- 0:14:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript lot more but as those schools pick up capacity then these schools like this can also give some
- 0:14:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript capacity to those schools so right it's like throwing a pebble in a pond right and that's
- 0:15:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript what i was thinking that you know those feed more to it and then the
- 0:15:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript some of this area would go to fill those so you know the capacity could come down
- 0:15:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you know to where it could handle this more but so i just look at this one as an extension of that
- 0:15:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript now the next one's a different story councilman chandler you recognized thank you mayor uh
- 0:15:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we have any kind of indicator of where this traffic would be coming out of the the first one
- 0:15:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript would it be
- 0:15:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript coming on back onto whitfield road
- 0:15:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript yes sir you can see their existing driveway right there in this photo there is a driveway pad that
- 0:15:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript was poured as part of that now it is through the striped median there so upon development
- 0:15:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of this parcel and i can't quite remember but i do think the internal square there is also the same
- 0:15:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript owner we would look to push that access as far north as possible away from the roundabout when
- 0:16:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they bring it in for development okay and i'm going to jump ahead to the next one the one the
- 0:16:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript lot on the corner where would that be coming out is it going to be are they going to be made to go
- 0:16:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript back out that that's going to be the key point to talk about next is that that parcel has no access
- 0:16:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but it is owned by this parcel owner so it would be a portion you would come through this parcel
- 0:16:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and go down to that portion of the parcel you cannot have a driveway off the roundabout right
- 0:16:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on the corner when the city built the roundabout they specifically purchased the driveway access
- 0:16:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript points of that and that parcel does not have a driveway and cannot get a driveway uh itself
- 0:16:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript thank you sir any more comment or question all right let's move on to the next one shall we
- 0:16:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript ordinance 42 2025-26 this is z51 2025 also an application of fonda malone this is 0.298
- 0:17:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this is z51 2025 also an application of fonda malone this is 0.298
- 0:17:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript currently zoned r2 and requesting to go to c2 general commercial it's a parcel at the northeast
- 0:17:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript quadrant of the north whitfield road and need more road roundabout it's a small parcel located
- 0:17:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript at the roundabout it's in council ward number nine in the saint bethlehem planning area
- 0:17:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the applicant statement is for a small re small commercial retail there's that parcel
- 0:17:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript highlighted for you there with the previous parcel being just to the north planning areas
- 0:17:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the current zoning in the area so this parcel has no structure on it that home is on the parcel
- 0:17:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to the east so again a possibly possible gravity sewer extension will be needed to access this
- 0:18:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript parcel a traffic assessment was required along with z50 2025 so they combined that
- 0:18:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript into one traffic assessment it was reviewed and accepted by the street department
- 0:18:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the police department did ask questions about the access and we answered that at the planning
- 0:18:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript commission meeting and the school system did provide a comment about commercial sites near
- 0:18:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the school campus that you can read it's quite long i'll read it as commercial sites are developed
- 0:18:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript near cmcss school campuses vehicle congestion and increased pedestrian traffic safety must
- 0:18:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript be considered vehicles turning left from multiple access points on to need more road will directly
- 0:18:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript impact traffic approaching or exiting from glen elm campus during the cmcss school year
- 0:18:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Currently, traffic access to Glen Ellen proves difficult with daily vehicle loads traveling
- 0:19:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in and around the vicinity of the proposed development.
- 0:19:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Continued growth in traffic causes more delays for students and bus drivers during school
- 0:19:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript pick-up or drop-off.
- 0:19:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript C2 will permit mixed-use potential with commercial and multi-family residential.
- 0:19:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The access is required to be combined with the adjoining parcels to gain access to public
- 0:19:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript street.
- 0:19:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Applicants estimate for units, again, they mentioned three on this.
- 0:19:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in the suburban neighborhood land use, as mentioned.
- 0:19:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I will say if this parcel is combined with the parcel to the north, which is what we
- 0:19:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript would anticipate, it would be a site where you'd have the townhomes in the R5 section
- 0:19:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and maybe a small commercial, I would think for the size of the parcel, a small couple
- 0:19:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript thousand to maybe 3,000 square foot.
- 0:19:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Generally speaking, that would be it.
- 0:19:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The general store, something like that on the corner where the access comes through
- 0:20:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the parcel to the north, they do get to potentially use those multi-family units on the property
- 0:20:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript elsewhere, as long as it's kept as one property, but only the commercials could be in that
- 0:20:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript south portion.
- 0:20:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The parking could be on the north portion in the R5 if they design it that way.
- 0:20:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They've not provided a design, but staff did chew on this a lot to say, how could you build
- 0:20:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this with the parcels around it?
- 0:20:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We actually think this might be a good idea.
- 0:20:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this would be one of the best uses of this because it provides use of the property
- 0:20:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when it doesn't have a driveway by using the properties around it in a combined scenario.
- 0:20:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We would require this all to be platted as one lot during the subdivision process.
- 0:20:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Staff's recommendation for this parcel is for approval.
- 0:20:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The request is consistent with the overall goals and objectives of the comprehensive
- 0:20:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript plan.
- 0:20:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This parcel is designated suburban neighborhood.
- 0:20:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And in the future land use.
- 0:20:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript plan supports neighborhood scale commercial near residential uses at
- 0:21:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript major transportation route intersections need more road functions as an arterial
- 0:21:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and Whitfield Road functions as a collector while both serve as major
- 0:21:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript transportation routes for the area this parcel is prohibited from having access
- 0:21:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to need more road per the deed restrictions I'll also extend it also
- 0:21:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Whitfield Road the adjacent parcel to the north is under the same ownership
- 0:21:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and a concept plan with has been shown as the traffic assessment that
- 0:21:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript identifies a shared driveway with Whitfield Road that is required per the
- 0:21:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript street department comments the Planning Commission also recommends approval
- 0:21:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript thank you sir councilman McLaughlin you recognized my main question is that we
- 0:21:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript talk all the time about once we introduced a new zoning classification
- 0:21:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript new area that doesn't have it we're opening the floodgates so if this
- 0:21:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript should pass we could probably expect more of that along
- 0:21:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with our to is a long need more when we're struggling for affordable housing
- 0:22:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so I don't know if that came up in any of the staff conversations about that
- 0:22:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that you know we potentially could be turning a lot of residential properties
- 0:22:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript into commercial if this passes that's why I think City Council has the ultimate
- 0:22:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript decision on these we think as a corner lot that has no access is one thing
- 0:22:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript maybe the lot next door thinks they want C2 and we'll have to take those one by
- 0:22:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript one as they go.
- 0:22:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They come I would not be in support of a full C2 block over there to and drive
- 0:22:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that's too much for the area you have a lot of other commercial to the south
- 0:22:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with the neighborhood market and other things that are developed down there to
- 0:22:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript support the region but a corner store on a sidewalk with a walkable neighborhood
- 0:22:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript behind it might not be a bad idea as long as it's not continuing the theme of
- 0:22:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript putting gas stations by schools thank you councilman Streetman you recognized
- 0:22:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript thank you mayor okay I go back to my previous
- 0:22:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript question on the other one so the applicant put that their intention was
- 0:23:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript 35 units between the two lots including this one
- 0:23:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they but yet they put on this one that it's a retail commercial so is it
- 0:23:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript like you said the plan that they're utilizing that space to be able to
- 0:23:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript increase their density on the previous zoning case we just discussed staff
- 0:23:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript talked about this a lot and we actually talked to
- 0:23:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the owner we felt that they just wanted to credit the property towards
- 0:23:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript additional units it would just be R5 but their intention is to have a commercial
- 0:23:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript aspect on this parcel but they can also take advantage of the extra three or
- 0:23:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript four lots that you can get on 0.3 acres elsewhere on a larger property if they
- 0:23:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript develop this with the properties around it okay and then I I have concerns with
- 0:23:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the thought of utilizing this space for a retail commercial
- 0:23:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they're going to be going through a residential area to access it I don't
- 0:24:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript feel like that's a I mean I we've seen it in the past where you may have the
- 0:24:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript commercial in front and the residential behind but talking about you know having
- 0:24:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a business there where people are going to have to go through you know town homes
- 0:24:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript apartments whatever ends up I realize R5 is town homes but I also know that C2 allows
- 0:24:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript like we talked about allows for apartments so it just I don't know
- 0:24:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this math just isn't adding for me for it to be a good move for us to do here
- 0:24:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript especially if it allows doing this also allows that one to have a total of 35
- 0:24:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript units plus a retail and it's that close to the roundabout so I'm I'm definitely
- 0:24:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript not going to be in favor of this one and it could shade my opinion on the other
- 0:24:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript one as well since this is going to have to be considered as a whole if they end
- 0:24:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript up bringing it back together so thank you
- 0:24:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Spotsman Brown you recognized thank you mayor so I have concerns with this being
- 0:25:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in the roundabout and being commercial you know people have to pay attention when they're
- 0:25:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript driving if they're looking through the roundabout and you got a commercial business there that's
- 0:25:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript got all these signs in the windows or something we're trying to draw people's attention to the
- 0:25:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript business I just don't think that that's a good spot for a commercial business to be
- 0:25:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there some kind of retail store or anything you know for the people that live next to
- 0:25:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you might might be handy for them to walk over there but you're also going to have the people
- 0:25:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript driving to there that'll probably end up having to park it in the the apartments or the buildings
- 0:25:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript next door because there's not going to be much parking in that parking lot they're having to
- 0:25:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript drive through there so then you're tying up the residence's access to their residents so I just
- 0:25:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I just don't like this one in the roundabout.
- 0:25:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think the layout of the site is a little speculative.
- 0:25:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think it's a little short to assume they're going to park in other places.
- 0:26:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Whoever develops this will have to develop it in a way that meets our parking requirements for commercial
- 0:26:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as well as the parking requirements for the townhouses.
- 0:26:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And if the townhomes are built before or at the same time,
- 0:26:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript whoever lives there knows what they're going to get into.
- 0:26:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I think it can be designed in a way, and we'd love to encourage mixed-use opportunities.
- 0:26:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is a unique opportunity.
- 0:26:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I will say, just for any other fears that are out there,
- 0:26:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if this parcel was zoned and not incorporated with the parcel north of it,
- 0:26:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it still doesn't have a driveway.
- 0:26:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The driveways have been purchased on this,
- 0:26:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so it kind of is a little bit of a landlocked parcel as it is right now.
- 0:26:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Lovato, you're recognized.
- 0:26:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:26:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I apologize for not looking this up earlier.
- 0:26:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Do we know if this is in the parent responsibility zone?
- 0:26:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It absolutely would be.
- 0:26:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I will say I am absolutely a no then.
- 0:26:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're going to put residential right next to commercial,
- 0:26:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they're going to share a parking spot.
- 0:26:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't care where they're parking,
- 0:26:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but now we have kids who are going to be walking to school while battling commercial traffic.
- 0:27:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll be a no on both.
- 0:27:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:27:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance?
- 0:27:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're ready for Item D, Ordinance 46-2025-26.
- 0:27:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall.
- 0:27:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is Planning Commission Cases E52-2025.
- 0:27:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is the application of Calvin Ligon with Ligon Home Builders.
- 0:27:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Gaila Stewart and Daryl Adkins as the applicants.
- 0:27:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is four parcels combined for approximately 14.7 acres.
- 0:27:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is currently a mixture of AG Agricultural and R2 Single Family Residential,
- 0:27:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript wishing to go to R3 Three Family Residential District.
- 0:27:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The properties consist of four tracks located along the northern terminus of Bell Road.
- 0:27:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's a semi-wooded tract of land.
- 0:27:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript With a residential home site and power line easements running north-south across the property.
- 0:27:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in Council Ward Number 9.
- 0:27:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is the Comprehensive Plan Future Land Use.
- 0:28:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Notice it's a suburban neighborhood.
- 0:28:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're just a stone's throw from where we were with the previous case.
- 0:28:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And here's the existing zoning in the area.
- 0:28:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript For the council members who weren't here in the past,
- 0:28:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the R3 was passed several years ago in the darker yellow.
- 0:28:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They requested to come back for R2A.
- 0:28:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript On a portion of this land, it's a semi-wooded tract of land.
- 0:28:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This parcel and another one, it was denied.
- 0:28:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The applicant has worked with the other property owners in the area
- 0:28:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to add to their subdivision to make this work.
- 0:28:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'll talk about some of those aspects here in a second.
- 0:28:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is currently Bell Road, where the current subdivision,
- 0:28:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so the R3 that exists there in the dark yellow, is getting developed currently.
- 0:28:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And one of their requirements was to improve Bell Road to the extent possible,
- 0:28:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is 20 feet of asphalt all the way out to,
- 0:28:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript need more road, providing a second way in and out to that subdivision
- 0:28:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript instead of using Ann Drive or Whitfield Road.
- 0:29:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what you're seeing here is the north is to your back.
- 0:29:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're looking south where the road is going to come out on Bell Road going out.
- 0:29:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they're in the process of cutting in the subdivision and doing the road work now.
- 0:29:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Now you're looking south.
- 0:29:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have not done this portion of work yet,
- 0:29:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but this will be widened to the extent possible.
- 0:29:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like I mentioned, that's going to eventually be 20 feet of pavement.
- 0:29:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What you're looking at is about 10, 11 feet of pavement.
- 0:29:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right there.
- 0:29:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is one of the parcels off to the east of Bell Road.
- 0:29:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Department comments and concerns.
- 0:29:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The gas and water said a water main extension will be required.
- 0:29:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A traffic assessment was received and accepted for this additional portion of land.
- 0:29:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No other department comments or concerns in the school system listed their capacities
- 0:30:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of Glen Ellyn Northeast Middle and Northeast High School again.
- 0:30:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The impact of this development would be single family with the potential of duplex or triplex,
- 0:30:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or a single family with multiple properties.
- 0:30:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Historical estimates on our three from 14 and a half acres would be 73 units.
- 0:30:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in the suburban neighborhood planning designation.
- 0:30:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Planning staff recommended disapproval.
- 0:30:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The request is inconsistent with the goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan.
- 0:30:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The future land use opinion map designates these parcels as suburban neighborhood and large areas of R3.
- 0:30:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Moderate density residential within the designation do not reflect the intended development pattern of the area.
- 0:30:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The Planning Commission.
- 0:30:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript On the other hand,
- 0:30:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript recommended approval citing the existing R3 to the west and the same developer.
- 0:30:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman McLaughlin, you're recognized.
- 0:30:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:30:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is probably just more a comment.
- 0:30:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Last time we discussed this area for rezoning, we discussed accessing Nicole Road.
- 0:31:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're not continually trying to dump people, more people, onto Newmore Road.
- 0:31:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Was anything brought up by Mr. Ligden about trying to acquire
- 0:31:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript access to the property of a connect this area to Newmore?
- 0:31:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, this is a there's a large sinkhole to the north and drainage basin if this were to and I don't have a subdivision yet we would try to stub to the north if we can we would definitely be stubbing to the east and hopefully get over to Nan eventually and then if the properties to the south ever develop connecting to Pat Drive as well and make that whole area connected back and forth.
- 0:31:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, thank you.
- 0:31:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.
- 0:31:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:31:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't have as much of a question as I do a statement on this.
- 0:31:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're looking at three rezoning.
- 0:31:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's going to add according to the figures that provided 296 people 110 units.
- 0:32:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In the area of this town, it's already got everything crammed as much as you can get into it.
- 0:32:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript People is on the contract.
- 0:32:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Council now remember the last time I was on the council when a subdivision came up, you know, we need to be where we need to be where now we had to go in and redesign need more and Whitfield to put in a roundabout.
- 0:32:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm scared of these three and the reason I'm scared of these three is looking at them as a crow flies.
- 0:32:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's not much distance between any of them and we're looking at agriculture all around it.
- 0:32:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How long is it going to be for somebody else comes in and decide?
- 0:32:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, we want to put 200 and something lost because I'm looking at spaces that are a whole lot bigger.
- 0:32:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I just think that I drove need more road the other day coming back from the new Kroger's and it took me about as long to get down need more road as it does to drive for Campbell Boulevard.
- 0:33:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And to me, this is just you're asking us to cram some more people into a small area again, and I'll be voting Thursday.
- 0:33:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, all three of them.
- 0:33:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's it. Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:33:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you. Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance?
- 0:33:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for item E ordinance 49 2025 26.
- 0:33:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall.
- 0:33:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript For a second.
- 0:33:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We did have a couple of referrals at the planning commission.
- 0:33:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is case is he 55 2025 the application of QP for this is 12.96 acres currently zoned our five residential district and requesting to go to our to a single family residential district.
- 0:34:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's an undeveloped tract located at the western terminus of quarry overlook way.
- 0:34:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's currently a wooded portion of a property adjacent to abandoned quarry site with railroad to the northwest and a previously approved development plan.
- 0:34:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in council ward number 10.
- 0:34:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's in the Saint Bethlehem planning area.
- 0:34:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The applicant statement is for a proposed single family development.
- 0:34:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Previously, this was zoned in 1980 for a quarry and then it was zoned in 2020 for the R5.
- 0:34:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So going from R5 to R2A is in essence a down zone from townhomes to smaller single family lots.
- 0:34:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And there's the future land use map of the suburban neighborhood.
- 0:34:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And here's the current zoning.
- 0:34:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You can see there's a development plan.
- 0:34:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's a portion of R1 and R6 little cluster in the back there.
- 0:34:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then this was going to feed into an R5 subdivision in the back.
- 0:34:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The R5 to the south off of old Russellville Pike has been developed.
- 0:35:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The quarry lies in that R5 in between it there.
- 0:35:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's pretty much undevelopable between these two areas.
- 0:35:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Here's the road that was installed by the developer.
- 0:35:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's a small roundabout and it terminates at what this would have been the future section.
- 0:35:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they're going to request that this be a single family section of the development.
- 0:35:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Department comments.
- 0:35:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The street department said it was a down zoning and below the threshold for a traffic assessment.
- 0:35:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But sidewalks would be required with the new subdivision roads.
- 0:35:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No other comments or concerns in the school system listed their capacities of the Rossview Elementary, Middle and High School complex.
- 0:36:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Historic estimate would be 58 units.
- 0:36:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Staff does recommend approval.
- 0:36:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This request is consistent with the overall goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan.
- 0:36:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The proposed R2.
- 0:36:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A aligns with the suburban neighborhood designation identified in the future land use opinion map.
- 0:36:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The requested R2.
- 0:36:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A single family residential zoning represents a down zoning from the existing R5 and will require the submission of an approved update amended.
- 0:36:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 0:36:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An approval of an updated development plan through the Regional Planning Commission.
- 0:36:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Planning Commission also recommended approval.
- 0:36:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mr.
- 0:36:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Tendo.
- 0:36:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Brion, you're recognized.
- 0:36:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:36:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:36:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Just a question about the quarry.
- 0:36:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know I would imagine that they're not going to build on top of it because I know that quarry down there, some of it does go underground.
- 0:36:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So would this be on top of some of that or is that all in the other R5 area?
- 0:36:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because I've been down there before and went into those kind of what you call caves, but where they've been dug out.
- 0:37:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Got in a foot pursuit out there.
- 0:37:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This parcel slopes as you go west.
- 0:37:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You can see the old cutout of the quarry on the screen here.
- 0:37:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So this parcel is to the west of it.
- 0:37:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I cannot promise that it is not over any caverns.
- 0:37:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There is considerable distance, a couple hundred feet, I think, between the bottom of the quarry and the top of this property there.
- 0:37:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But geotechnical will be part of their review process for this to make sure that's okay.
- 0:37:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:37:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Did you get your suspect?
- 0:37:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 0:37:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:37:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That was a long climb up.
- 0:37:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:37:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Always gets his man.
- 0:37:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 0:37:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 0:37:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:37:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall, I know you stated this would be reduced density with it being a downgrade.
- 0:37:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You've got a historical yield of 58 with it as an R2A.
- 0:38:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What would be the historical yield as an R5?
- 0:38:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We'll say 13 acres, 130 to 150 tacks.
- 0:38:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:38:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:38:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then with the issues in regard that were just discussed, will they be able to actually use the cluster subdivision to be able to yield smaller lots?
- 0:38:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I realize it doesn't change the number, but I'm just asking in regard to that.
- 0:38:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript R2A is not clustered.
- 0:38:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're right.
- 0:38:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 0:38:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is a standalone zone.
- 0:38:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is a 5,000-square-foot minimum, which is similar to cluster, but it doesn't require the cluster option.
- 0:38:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it doesn't get any smaller.
- 0:38:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I apologize.
- 0:38:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:38:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance?
- 0:38:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for Item F, Ordinance 50, 2025-26.
- 0:38:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall.
- 0:38:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This area may look a little familiar to the council.
- 0:38:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is case Z56-2025, application of crest properties.
- 0:39:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is a portion of a parcel.
- 0:39:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is .21 acres is the request.
- 0:39:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The parcel is obviously a little bigger than that.
- 0:39:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is [address omitted; hear it in the video at this time].
- 0:39:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:39:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they're requesting to go from R1 to R2A.
- 0:39:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's the rear of an existing lot.
- 0:39:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in Council Ward Number 4.
- 0:39:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The applicant's statement is to add the one lot to the proposed Concord Ridge subdivision.
- 0:39:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Here's the future land use map showing this as suburban neighborhood, which R2A would be compliant.
- 0:39:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then you can see the R2A to the south.
- 0:39:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As the developers were working on this property,
- 0:39:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they may have left it off, may have gained an opportunity.
- 0:39:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It gains them one lot on the subdivision.
- 0:39:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The road to the R2A will come from the north down from Concord Drive.
- 0:39:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this affords them the opportunity to get one more parcel in the subdivision.
- 0:39:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There would be the proposed home.
- 0:40:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The rear of that home is the R2A request.
- 0:40:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And there's Concord Drive where the subdivision road would come in on the left somewhere around this picture.
- 0:40:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Or on the right.
- 0:40:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It was below the threshold for traffic assessments.
- 0:40:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sidewalks will be required as part of the subdivision approval.
- 0:40:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No other comments or concerns.
- 0:40:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the school system provided the capacities of the Kenwood school system complex.
- 0:40:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The future road will be constructed as part of the overall development.
- 0:40:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We did get a preliminary subdivision at the Planning Commission,
- 0:40:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so they'll have to revise that to include this additional lot.
- 0:40:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Again, it is historic estimates of one additional unit.
- 0:40:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Staff does recommend approval.
- 0:40:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The request is consistent with the overall goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan.
- 0:41:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The proposed R2A single family residential zoning
- 0:41:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript aligns with the suburban neighborhood designation identified on the future land use map.
- 0:41:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this request would allow one additional lot within the adjoining residential subdivision development plan.
- 0:41:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The Planning Commission also recommends approval.
- 0:41:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you. Any comment or question?
- 0:41:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall, the Councilman Chandler, go ahead.
- 0:41:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're recognized.
- 0:41:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Go back to the aerial map if you would.
- 0:41:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Please.
- 0:41:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:41:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that there is a planned driveway going across one of these, or road connecting.
- 0:41:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Which one of these houses is that road that was connected to this R2A going to go through?
- 0:41:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Do you know?
- 0:41:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, sir.
- 0:41:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is, it's this parcel on the west side.
- 0:41:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So you can see where it has that little cutout that goes up.
- 0:41:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah.
- 0:41:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The road would come on the west side of that parcel and then enter here.
- 0:42:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So this lot would front that new road facing to the west.
- 0:42:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the existing home will stay.
- 0:42:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Whatever you want to call that shape.
- 0:42:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're going to put that right behind that house and then right beside the driveway that's going to be connected to the other buildings, correct?
- 0:42:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The future road to serve the subdivision will be on the west side of this parcel.
- 0:42:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right.
- 0:42:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Which is this owner is selling.
- 0:42:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And has already agreed to sell that portion for the roadway.
- 0:42:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, I understand that.
- 0:42:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're also selling their backyard.
- 0:42:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But yes, a home could be situated behind this home and adjacent to the backyard of the home to the east.
- 0:42:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:42:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:42:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's all.
- 0:42:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they're going to put one unit, one lot.
- 0:42:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's one lot you're showing?
- 0:42:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is one lot.
- 0:42:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They will subdivide it off, obviously, from the existing home.
- 0:43:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We won't have two homes on one lot.
- 0:43:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When the subdivision is done.
- 0:43:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When the subdivision comes through, this will be cut off and will be part of the subdivision.
- 0:43:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The home to the north will be similar in depth than to the other lots in the area.
- 0:43:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And there will be a road or a driveway connecting to Concord Drive?
- 0:43:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Correct.
- 0:43:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's about a 35-unit subdivision that they were able to work out with the remainder to the south there.
- 0:43:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The road will go in from Concord going straight south on the western property line of the home.
- 0:43:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that existing home, that existing ranch in the photos will remain because it's going to stay R1.
- 0:43:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it can't be subdivided any further due to its size.
- 0:43:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But by subdividing the rear property here, it allows that property owner to sell that portion to the subdivision,
- 0:43:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which they already agreed to allow the road to go through.
- 0:43:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:43:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance?
- 0:43:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I told the developer I wish they had done this on the front end.
- 0:43:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It would have made it a little easier.
- 0:44:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No kidding.
- 0:44:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, you're recognized on this ordinance.
- 0:44:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:44:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So, Mr. Tindall, this additional unit that you're going to add under this 2A,
- 0:44:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript how does that fit in the character when there's no 2As around this lot?
- 0:44:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript City Council about maybe four months ago approved that large portion of R2A to the south.
- 0:44:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Remember, it was C2 and allowed for multifamily,
- 0:44:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then it was downzoned to R2A to allow for, like I said, around 35-unit subdivision.
- 0:44:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's how it is.
- 0:44:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's going to come down behind those lots.
- 0:44:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They are going to be smaller than the existing lots out there,
- 0:44:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but it will be contained in its own side street.
- 0:44:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But this is going to be some duplexes?
- 0:44:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, single family.
- 0:44:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Just a single family.
- 0:44:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're going to be attached or detached?
- 0:44:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Detached.
- 0:44:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Detached.
- 0:44:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:44:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question?
- 0:44:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for Item G, Ordinance 51, 2025-26.
- 0:45:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall.
- 0:45:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:45:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is Planning Commission Case C57-2025, the application of CGH properties.
- 0:45:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is .55 acres, currently zoned R1 and requesting to go to R3,
- 0:45:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript three-family residential district.
- 0:45:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The property is known as [address omitted; hear it in the video at this time].
- 0:45:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's currently a single-family residential lot with a home site on it.
- 0:45:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is in Council Ward Number 11 in the St. Bethlehem planning area.
- 0:45:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The applicant's statement is to build a triplex.
- 0:45:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The areals are just getting updated now, but you can see the Rossview High School and
- 0:45:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Middle School elementary school complex to the northeast.
- 0:45:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The city recently opened up the completed realignment of Dunbar Cave Road and Cardinal
- 0:45:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Lane, so this parcel now becomes a corner lot, as you'll see in the photos.
- 0:45:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In the comprehensive plan, we did identify this area as a neighborhood commercial corridor,
- 0:46:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as you can see on Rossview Road, we went from regional commercial in the darker red
- 0:46:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to more neighborhood commercial back to the single-family neighborhood.
- 0:46:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we recognized its proximity to Dunbar Cave Road and the interstate that this area might
- 0:46:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript have some smaller commercial or office opportunity.
- 0:46:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Here's your current zoning of the properties.
- 0:46:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is RM1, or EM1, I'm sorry.
- 0:46:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is a mobile home lots to the south.
- 0:46:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You have an OP lot, office professional.
- 0:46:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You have an OP lot to the east, and an R1 around it.
- 0:46:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Here's the current intersection, and the property is on the left.
- 0:46:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll get you there.
- 0:46:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's Rossview Road.
- 0:46:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's the parcel right there.
- 0:46:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Though it's currently addressed as Rossview Road, it will not have a Rossview Road access.
- 0:47:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It'll have to access the new Dunbar Cave Road as far away from Rossview Road as possible.
- 0:47:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You can see the old driveway there on the left, just behind that truck.
- 0:47:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A gravity sewer or force main extension will need to be built.
- 0:47:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It will need to be constructed for this property.
- 0:47:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It was below the traffic threshold for an assessment.
- 0:47:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The access ordinance says you get one access on Dunbar Cave Road.
- 0:47:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No other department comments or concerns, and the school system listed their capacities
- 0:47:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of the Rossview Elementary, Middle, and High School complex.
- 0:47:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Historical estimates would be only one triplex.
- 0:47:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The parcel's not big enough to subdivide, so three total units.
- 0:47:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Staff does recommend approval.
- 0:47:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The request is consistent with the overall goals and objectives of the comprehensive plan.
- 0:47:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The parcel is designated as neighborhood commercial on the adopted comprehensive land use map.
- 0:48:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This designation is intended to serve the surrounding residents by providing small-scale neighborhood-oriented goods and services.
- 0:48:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In addition, the designation supports moderate or higher density residential development,
- 0:48:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which can help enhance the mix of uses and reinforce the overall function of the area.
- 0:48:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The adopted comprehensive plan supports increased residential density,
- 0:48:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and areas near schools and commercial uses,
- 0:48:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript especially where supporting infrastructure such as sidewalks and pedestrian facilities are in place
- 0:48:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or will otherwise be provided as part of the development.
- 0:48:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The Planning Commission also recommended approval.
- 0:48:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 0:48:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:48:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall, as was referenced from the councilperson from Ward 2 earlier on a case,
- 0:48:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there's no R3 anywhere on here on this map.
- 0:48:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In fact, in looking at it in this particular picture,
- 0:48:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we don't have any even multifamily in this area.
- 0:48:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So, introducing R3 on this, which I understand we're talking one triplex, one small lot,
- 0:49:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but aren't you then introducing the R3 to the area,
- 0:49:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which could then encourage that throughout when you've got a vast majority of this area being R1?
- 0:49:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When the planning staff reviews zoning applications,
- 0:49:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the extension of a zoning contract
- 0:49:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and classification is very low on the list.
- 0:49:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We look at, does it agree with the comprehensive plan?
- 0:49:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What does the future land use opinion map say?
- 0:49:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What are the roads and the infrastructure like in the area?
- 0:49:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Just because it's next to it does not guarantee that the next parcel gets this opportunity.
- 0:49:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This, by the comprehensive plan, should be more of a smaller commercial or office parcel,
- 0:49:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but it's an odd-shaped parcel.
- 0:49:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And when the applicant applied, they said this is about all they figured they could fit on the site
- 0:49:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because it would only require six parking spaces.
- 0:49:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you put any amount of commercial on here, your parking lot would have to be much bigger.
- 0:49:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Besides the current single-family home site that's on there,
- 0:50:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this is probably one of the least intense uses you could put on there
- 0:50:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and still develop it greater than a single-family house.
- 0:50:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I understand that.
- 0:50:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Just like I said, I think about it from the aspect of introducing it.
- 0:50:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that's been talked about before from the Planning Commission
- 0:50:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on the side of when discussing R6, that once you're introducing it to the area,
- 0:50:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's introduced to the area.
- 0:50:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that both myself, I have been reached out to,
- 0:50:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I know that the councilman for Ward 11 has been reached out to
- 0:50:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because I've had residents from Ward 11 reach out to me
- 0:50:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and tell me that they had spoke with him,
- 0:50:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and he had instructed them to reach out to all of the council.
- 0:50:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I've heard from residents in both 10 and 11 in opposition to this.
- 0:50:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:50:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this ordinance?
- 0:50:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 0:50:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for Item H, Resolution 34-20-25-26.
- 0:50:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall, anything new on this?
- 0:51:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, Mayor.
- 0:51:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This was deferred by City Council last month.
- 0:51:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This was the abandonment of those portions of road network
- 0:51:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for the Clarksville Housing Authority.
- 0:51:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I believe it's been discussed a lot this past month with the city attorney
- 0:51:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and others, and I'll be here to answer any questions.
- 0:51:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Marquis, you're recognized.
- 0:51:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:51:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mr. Tindall.
- 0:51:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Actually,
- 0:51:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I wanted to let you guys know I do have an amendment coming on this.
- 0:51:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In fact, I've been in touch with the contractor of this,
- 0:51:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and he's in the audience,
- 0:51:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and he has a lot of information that I believe would be useful
- 0:51:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for the city council here,
- 0:51:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I would like it if you'd be allowed to speak.
- 0:51:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're talking about right now?
- 0:51:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript To address the council.
- 0:51:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 0:51:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, this is not a public hearing.
- 0:51:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We've already had a public hearing.
- 0:51:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He can share that information with the council via email.
- 0:51:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:51:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, I will have him email that.
- 0:51:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But in regards to the rest of this,
- 0:51:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there is a timeline that I guess we've misunderstood of when it was happening,
- 0:52:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or at least it was not properly told to us,
- 0:52:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is why there was a lot of pressure to have this done back in December.
- 0:52:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But it turns out that we do have a bit more time involved in this.
- 0:52:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And as I said,
- 0:52:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll have him.
- 0:52:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll give you more details on that,
- 0:52:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I will bring an amendment to this.
- 0:52:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:52:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:52:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're right.
- 0:52:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have not gotten the accurate information about this or that project,
- 0:52:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so I look forward to getting that information.
- 0:52:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this resolution?
- 0:52:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, you're recognized.
- 0:52:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll just say this.
- 0:52:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Speaking on behalf of some of the constituents
- 0:52:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the people who stood up here last month trying to get this pushed forward,
- 0:52:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't know why we have to keep delaying something
- 0:52:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when we know that it is needed in that area.
- 0:53:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to, if it's possible,
- 0:53:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to vote in favor of this to get this off the back of the people who wrote the grant
- 0:53:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or who received the money.
- 0:53:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They received the money, $35 million,
- 0:53:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to try to provide this.
- 0:53:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They tried everything that is requested from the state
- 0:53:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so that they could begin doing the work over in Lincoln Homes.
- 0:53:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so all they're asking for is to get the abandoned property
- 0:53:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on Howard Street, Lincoln Drive, and Ernest Shelton Drive.
- 0:53:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't know why we keep delaying stuff when it comes to that area
- 0:53:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when it needs to be taken care of immediately.
- 0:53:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Time.
- 0:53:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not going to change anything in the sense
- 0:53:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that that same person might be there.
- 0:53:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know we're looking for a new director over there.
- 0:54:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But as I said,
- 0:54:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think we need to go ahead and get this taken care of
- 0:54:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and stop delaying it.
- 0:54:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'll leave it there.
- 0:54:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:54:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman McLaughlin, you're recognized.
- 0:54:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The issue is that we have not received information
- 0:54:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to educate us on what we're voting for.
- 0:54:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And a resolution is a one and done.
- 0:54:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Once we vote on this,
- 0:54:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's done and we've lost our ability
- 0:54:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to learn about what's happening.
- 0:54:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's no, we're not trying to slight the people
- 0:54:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that live in the area that are looking for the redevelopment.
- 0:54:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But this is city infrastructure.
- 0:54:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have a responsibility to the city taxpayers
- 0:54:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to make sure that we know what we're voting on.
- 0:54:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:54:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith.
- 0:54:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:54:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you for your response, young lady.
- 0:54:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we give away abandoned property all the time.
- 0:54:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so I just want to know why
- 0:54:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with this few little abandoned properties
- 0:54:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we have a problem giving away
- 0:55:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to a low-income...
- 0:55:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not a problem
- 0:55:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when we're giving it away to someone we want to have it.
- 0:55:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we say we're not trying to stop something,
- 0:55:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but we always want to delay something.
- 0:55:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so I think that we never had a problem
- 0:55:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript giving away abandonment property.
- 0:55:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And these little properties are right there together
- 0:55:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript just so that they can make sure
- 0:55:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that they keep their $35 million grant tax credits
- 0:55:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that they received.
- 0:55:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what we were discussing last week,
- 0:55:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean, last month,
- 0:55:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we wanted to wait until a new director come in.
- 0:55:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, I found out that an investigation was done
- 0:55:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and there was nothing found to be out of order
- 0:55:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because I was against it.
- 0:55:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I was against it at first,
- 0:55:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but when I found out there was nothing charged,
- 0:56:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript nobody did any harm
- 0:56:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript based upon the people who did the investigation.
- 0:56:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I don't know why we keep delaying and delaying and delaying.
- 0:56:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You are trying to prevent things from happening.
- 0:56:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:56:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Marquis, you're recognized.
- 0:56:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, I'm sorry.
- 0:56:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm just going to have to push back a little bit here
- 0:56:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because it says this item does not require a public hearing,
- 0:56:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but can...
- 0:56:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Banner,
- 0:56:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript can we check if Robert's Rule of Orders is about this
- 0:56:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and see if it's possible to have the individual...
- 0:56:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No?
- 0:56:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:56:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 0:56:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I will make sure that this information gets out to you
- 0:56:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because this information is in the room right now,
- 0:56:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I just wanted to get you guys in touch with the individual,
- 0:56:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I'll have an email.
- 0:56:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:56:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Please do because they've had months, if not years,
- 0:56:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to educate this council on the project
- 0:56:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they've waited until the 11th hour and 59th minute
- 0:56:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to do that.
- 0:56:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it's not fair to give them a second bite at the apple
- 0:57:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to do a second public hearing
- 0:57:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when everybody else has to go through the same rules.
- 0:57:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what's fair for the goose is good for the gander.
- 0:57:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman McLaughlin, you're recognized.
- 0:57:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't want to repeat what was previously stated,
- 0:57:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but the director is the Lincoln Homes consultant,
- 0:57:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and she's had five years to come to us with a plan.
- 0:57:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't have confidence in her directorship
- 0:57:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or her consultantship,
- 0:57:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I just think that it's been clearly stated multiple times,
- 0:57:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this is not going to keep them from getting their money.
- 0:57:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is a one and done.
- 0:57:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to make sure we have the proper information
- 0:57:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to be able to make a decision.
- 0:57:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 0:57:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 0:57:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:57:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mayor, this may be a question for you.
- 0:57:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It was stated that in the past we've never had a problem
- 0:57:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with doing abandonments.
- 0:57:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We do this all the time.
- 0:57:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But this one's a little bit different situation, is it not?
- 0:57:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because this is the approving the abandonment of portions
- 0:58:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of actual road, you know, a street, two drives.
- 0:58:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript These are actual roads versus in the past when we've done abandonments,
- 0:58:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's the right of way that, you know,
- 0:58:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a road hasn't been put there yet.
- 0:58:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In the event that we abandon these actual roads,
- 0:58:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript what effect could that have on the roads?
- 0:58:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, they become assets or property
- 0:58:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of the Clarksville Housing Authority.
- 0:58:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 0:58:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Which means they would have to maintain them.
- 0:58:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we would no longer have any responsibility
- 0:58:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for clearing them of snow or repaving.
- 0:58:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And if this project doesn't happen, then they own it.
- 0:58:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So this is very different than in what we've done
- 0:58:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with the traditional abandonment just of right of ways.
- 0:58:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah.
- 0:58:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If it's a utility easement that we're abandoning,
- 0:58:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript obviously that's different than alleyway we've done.
- 0:58:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But to abandon a city street for a project we don't have
- 0:58:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the full picture, that dog has fleas.
- 0:58:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll just say it that way.
- 0:59:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 0:59:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:59:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.
- 0:59:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 0:59:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't know.
- 0:59:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm getting the feeling of some animosity.
- 0:59:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think that we're forgetting who this is for.
- 0:59:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is for the residents of Lincoln Home.
- 0:59:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It won't be the first time that we've given away property
- 0:59:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript property.
- 0:59:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's four of us sitting in here that we gave the streets.
- 0:59:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Excuse me.
- 0:59:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's four of us sitting in here that we gave Austin P.,
- 0:59:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Drain Street, the side of the Dunn Center.
- 0:59:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We gave that up.
- 0:59:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Of course, I was against it.
- 0:59:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the reason I was against it was how are you going to get
- 0:59:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a fire truck in there if they decide to block it off?
- 0:59:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't know.
- 0:59:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I just, again, Mayor,
- 0:59:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I heard you say, well, they've had this time and that time.
- 0:59:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And our difficulty in here is, just like another case that's
- 1:00:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript coming up later in the agenda, not all of us have been
- 1:00:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript privileged to what has gone on before this was presented.
- 1:00:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And call it what you may, but I think it's a lack of
- 1:00:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript communication on all of our parts,
- 1:00:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript not just any one individual.
- 1:00:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But, you know, I don't know.
- 1:00:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I look at this over here.
- 1:00:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Lincoln Homes has been there since, what, the 40s?
- 1:00:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is in a whole lot better shape than it has been years and years ago.
- 1:00:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think we're just forgetting who this is going for.
- 1:00:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're trying to help these people over there improve their quality of life.
- 1:00:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:00:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Councilman Chandler.
- 1:00:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, you're recognized.
- 1:00:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:00:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm going to say this.
- 1:01:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An abandoned is not giving them money.
- 1:01:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They already have the money.
- 1:01:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have the money to take care of these streets.
- 1:01:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not like they're going to leave them abandoned,
- 1:01:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because they're abandoned now.
- 1:01:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Even though we do own the street, the state or city,
- 1:01:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript own the streets, whoever, but they already made that plain to us
- 1:01:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that they were going to take care of them.
- 1:01:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They needed them to be able to.
- 1:01:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They needed them to meet the requirements to receive the money
- 1:01:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to establish new homes in Lincoln Homes.
- 1:01:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And as the other speaker said, that there are some people sitting in here
- 1:01:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript who wanted to know more about buying the property over on Union Street,
- 1:01:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but they were not formally informed.
- 1:01:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So where is the difference that these people came in,
- 1:01:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript just for a simple abandonment, something we do all the time?
- 1:01:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But there are people who don't want this place over at the well,
- 1:02:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they were not properly notified.
- 1:02:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what's the difference?
- 1:02:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So why is this such a big deal when it comes to a simple abandonment,
- 1:02:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript something we do all the time?
- 1:02:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript These people, they've been wanting to know about what we're going to do
- 1:02:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript here in the city with the well.
- 1:02:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they were not properly informed.
- 1:02:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So, you know, if the shoe fit, where?
- 1:02:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it's the truth.
- 1:02:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:02:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman McLaughlin, you are recognized.
- 1:02:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Final comment.
- 1:02:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I attended the last Housing Authority meeting.
- 1:02:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That was an eye-opening experience.
- 1:02:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If anybody has a chance to do that, I recommend it.
- 1:02:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We found some procedural things that they weren't following legally
- 1:02:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript according to Public Meetings Act, et cetera.
- 1:02:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And things like that are a lack of confidence.
- 1:02:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There are people that serve on that board that are appointed by us.
- 1:03:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're getting information from the staff.
- 1:03:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They think what the staff is giving them is accurate,
- 1:03:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but they're getting an agenda that is not published with things on it
- 1:03:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that they are voting on without knowing that that wasn't publicly posted.
- 1:03:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's my lack of confidence in what's going on over there.
- 1:03:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I am hopeful that they do appoint a new director
- 1:03:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and things get squared away because they don't just own Lincoln Homes.
- 1:03:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There are others.
- 1:03:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There are other properties that need help as well.
- 1:03:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, one last time.
- 1:03:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, this is my last go around.
- 1:03:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript She said she, whoever just spoke, said she saw some procedural things
- 1:03:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript not done correctly.
- 1:03:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm paraphrasing.
- 1:03:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript However, this council do things that are not procedurally correct
- 1:03:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript sometimes as well.
- 1:03:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We all make mistakes.
- 1:03:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So let's stop pointing the finger and let's do business.
- 1:03:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Let's just get this done.
- 1:03:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So these people can live like anybody else,
- 1:03:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript have a better place to live.
- 1:03:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We always want to point the finger when you don't want to do something.
- 1:04:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You'll come up with anything.
- 1:04:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Oh, yeah, they got some procedural problems.
- 1:04:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, we got procedural problems right here in this city,
- 1:04:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript on this city council.
- 1:04:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So don't tell me about, oh, you got that reason why you're not going to vote for it.
- 1:04:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Are you against it?
- 1:04:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm not against it.
- 1:04:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Oh, yeah, you just don't want to vote for it.
- 1:04:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But that's your business.
- 1:04:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But I'm just letting the city know that this city has procedural problems.
- 1:04:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So there shouldn't be a reason why not to vote to get these people this money
- 1:04:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so that we can get these projects taken care of.
- 1:04:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're dilapidated.
- 1:04:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're living in buildings that are cracked in the walls.
- 1:04:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've been over there many times,
- 1:04:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript been to many of the meetings over at the housing authority
- 1:04:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript way before she ever got on the council.
- 1:04:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Let's don't make this personal.
- 1:04:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Don't make it personal.
- 1:04:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not personal.
- 1:04:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's just real.
- 1:04:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's real.
- 1:04:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this is life.
- 1:04:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is public media.
- 1:04:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the citizens need to know what is being said in this council.
- 1:04:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're not going to hide anything.
- 1:04:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm tired of y'all not being transparent in some of your situations.
- 1:05:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:05:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Anybody else?
- 1:05:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right, Mr. Tindall, anything else?
- 1:05:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That concludes the planning commission business.
- 1:05:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right, we're now ready for the consent agenda.
- 1:05:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Madam Clark, please read the consent agenda.
- 1:05:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All items in this portion of the agenda are considered to be routine
- 1:05:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and noncontroversial by the council and may be approved by one motion.
- 1:05:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript However, a member of the council may request that an item be removed
- 1:05:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for separate consideration under the appropriate committee report.
- 1:05:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 35-2025-26, second reading.
- 1:05:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An ordinance amending the operating capital budgets for fiscal year 2026
- 1:05:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for governmental funds.
- 1:05:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 103-2024-25 for a grant award.
- 1:05:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 38-2025-26, second reading.
- 1:05:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An ordinance amending the zoning code and map of the city.
- 1:05:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 43-2025-26, second reading.
- 1:05:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Application of Legacy Nursery and Landscape for a zone change on attractive
- 1:05:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript land at the northern terminus of Kennedy Lane from C4 Highway Interchange
- 1:06:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript District to C5 Highway and Arterial Commercial District.
- 1:06:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 43-2025-26, second reading.
- 1:06:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An ordinance amending the city zoning ordinance of the city of Clarksville
- 1:06:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as it pertains to citywide electronic message center signage regulations.
- 1:06:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 44-2025-26, resolution approving appointments to the Act Authority,
- 1:06:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Designations Committee, Gas and Water Board, and the Regional Planning Commission,
- 1:06:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the adoption of minutes from December 4th.
- 1:06:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Madam Clerk.
- 1:06:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any member wish to be recognized on the consent agenda?
- 1:06:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for the Finance Committee Report.
- 1:06:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 1:06:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:06:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ordinance 45-2025-26, first reading.
- 1:06:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript An ordinance authorizing the mayor or his designee to conduct negotiations and to enter
- 1:06:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript into an agreement for the purchase of real property.
- 1:06:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript For the purpose of expanding homeless support services in partnership with Clarksville Area,
- 1:06:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban Ministries, and The Well, a mission of Trenton Crossing Church of Christ.
- 1:07:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Both the Finance and the Neighborhood Community Services Committees recommended approval.
- 1:07:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mayor, I would like to ask if you would mind bringing up Ms. Austin so that she can talk
- 1:07:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript some about this ordinance.
- 1:07:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Please.
- 1:07:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ms. Austin, if you would, please come forward.
- 1:07:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you have the floor.
- 1:07:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:07:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ms. Austin, could you talk to us?
- 1:07:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know you've given us a fact sheet with a lot of information.
- 1:07:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Before I get into questions, could you talk a little bit about this ordinance that's before us?
- 1:07:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I would love to, and I shared with each of you a fact sheet.
- 1:07:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's very important because I do want to keep to the facts.
- 1:07:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have a lot of points that I want to cover with this ordinance, and so if you don't mind,
- 1:07:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have some notes that I'm going to read from just to ensure I stay on track and cover everything
- 1:07:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that's necessary.
- 1:07:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript First of all, I'm grateful for this opportunity to speak on this ordinance.
- 1:07:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That authorizes the city to purchase the well property at [address omitted; hear it in the video at this time] in partnership
- 1:07:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with Clarksville Area Urban Ministries.
- 1:08:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to start off by thanking each of you for sharing with me the concerns that you've
- 1:08:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript received from the community members.
- 1:08:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've enjoyed, for the most part, the many conversations regarding this important subject.
- 1:08:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If anything that has come from the public forums and the one-on-one conversation, it's
- 1:08:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a more informed community on the real challenge of our unhoused and the growing community
- 1:08:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the growing number of families and seniors who are experiencing losing their housing.
- 1:08:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to be clear about what this ordinance does and what it does not do.
- 1:08:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This ordinance does not establish a 24-7 shelter.
- 1:08:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It does not introduce a new population into downtown.
- 1:08:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it does not replace a longer-range work my office is doing with The Canopy and other
- 1:08:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript partners for a plan for a comprehensive 24-7 shelter with wraparound services.
- 1:08:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That work is needed.
- 1:08:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is ongoing.
- 1:08:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But this is not the property and it is not related to this ordinance.
- 1:09:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That work is desperately needed.
- 1:09:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This location is ideal because of the individuals and families we intend to serve through this
- 1:09:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript site are already present in the downtown and Madison Street corridor.
- 1:09:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Many are already being served through the well, a beautiful ministry of Trenton Crossing
- 1:09:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Church of Christ.
- 1:09:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Downtown has long functioned as a service hub because of its proximity to the community.
- 1:09:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is also the home of many non-profit and faith-based providers such as Operation Standdown,
- 1:09:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Centerstone, Grace Assistance and Good Samaritan, as well as our public transportation hub and
- 1:09:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript our court systems and of course our employment and workforce services.
- 1:09:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You may ask yourself the benefit of city ownership.
- 1:09:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The city is seeking to make targeted improvements to expand the services at this site.
- 1:09:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Making those investments in a city-owned
- 1:09:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and city-controlled property ensures long-term accountability, public oversight, flexibility
- 1:10:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when community needs evolve, compliance with local laws, codes, and conduct standards,
- 1:10:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as well as protection of this public investment.
- 1:10:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The intended use and operations of this site will support expanded case management hours
- 1:10:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and programming.
- 1:10:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Emergency sheltering.
- 1:10:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Extreme weather only.
- 1:10:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Food, shower, and laundry services.
- 1:10:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban ministries will enforce a clear code of conduct that prohibits drugs, alcohol,
- 1:10:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript weapons, violence, loitering, trespassing, and littering in surrounding neighborhoods
- 1:10:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as outlined in our zoning code.
- 1:10:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript With expanded case management, we expect outcomes such as faster connections to housing, reduced
- 1:10:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript reliance on EMS, law enforcement, and emergency services.
- 1:10:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Our city is committed to protecting our community by providing more affordable housing for
- 1:10:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the community, increasing access to emergency rooms, improved access to health care and
- 1:10:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript behavioral health services, increased employment readiness, and greater housing stability and
- 1:11:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript improved public safety.
- 1:11:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to be clear that this initiative did not take place on a whim.
- 1:11:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This project aligns directly with the mission of neighborhood and community services, the
- 1:11:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the city's five-year HUD consolidated plan, my department's strategic plan,
- 1:11:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the mission of the Community Development Block Grant Program.
- 1:11:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It also continues the track record you have already supported,
- 1:11:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript including multiple ordinances for seven properties I've sponsored
- 1:11:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for public-private housing initiatives with faith-based and non-profit partners
- 1:11:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript over the past 12 months, including a $600,000 investment into a quadplex
- 1:11:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript through a partnership with Irene Center for Hope for transitional housing.
- 1:11:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The price of this property is $750,000.
- 1:11:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Funded through Community Block Grant entitlement funds
- 1:11:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with approximately $250,000 in planned improvements,
- 1:11:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the city intends to retain ownership and lease the property.
- 1:12:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban Ministries will carry annual operating and maintenance costs.
- 1:12:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If approved, next steps include final negotiations, site plan review,
- 1:12:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript drafting a service.
- 1:12:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There will be a service agreement with Urban Ministries
- 1:12:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and beginning those renovations included in this ordinance.
- 1:12:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In closing, this ordinance is about filling a community need
- 1:12:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and responsible investment at a site already serving the community.
- 1:12:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It strengthens what is working, improves safety,
- 1:12:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and outcomes that aligns with our city priorities.
- 1:12:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you for your time, and I'm happy to answer any questions you may have.
- 1:12:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you have the floor.
- 1:12:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Ms. Austin. I appreciate that.
- 1:12:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As you referenced, this is going...
- 1:12:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is going to be coming from our Community Block Grant entitlement funds.
- 1:12:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that's federal funds, correct?
- 1:12:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And those are federal funds...
- 1:12:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Apologize, go ahead.
- 1:12:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, that's correct.
- 1:12:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, sorry.
- 1:12:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, so our Community Block Grant funds
- 1:13:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and our Home Improvement Act funds
- 1:13:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript are the ones that we receive from the federal government.
- 1:13:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And these are funds that we're not the only community
- 1:13:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript throughout the country that's able to utilize these funds.
- 1:13:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Communities throughout the USA are able to apply for these funds and get these.
- 1:13:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They are, absolutely.
- 1:13:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they're entitlement funds,
- 1:13:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they are based on our community's population and our community's needs.
- 1:13:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So zero property tax dollars will be going towards this.
- 1:13:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is correct.
- 1:13:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, and then does this exhaust our...
- 1:13:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm going to say for short, CBDG funds.
- 1:13:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Does this exhaust those funds?
- 1:13:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's a great question.
- 1:13:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So no, we have a portion of these funds
- 1:13:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that have to be intended for purposes like this.
- 1:13:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This does not affect our home repair program,
- 1:13:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript our first-time homebuyer program,
- 1:13:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript our 12-month rental assistance program,
- 1:13:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript our financial empowerment center
- 1:13:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we're working to stand up in January,
- 1:13:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript nor does it affect any of the public services
- 1:14:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we currently support within the community
- 1:14:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript through our nonprofits.
- 1:14:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We currently have...
- 1:14:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman Shakinov will speak on this on Thursday,
- 1:14:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but...
- 1:14:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Our grant applications for our CDBG public service funds
- 1:14:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript will open on January 13th.
- 1:14:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That will start with a workshop,
- 1:14:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and that gives all nonprofit and faith-based organizations
- 1:14:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript here in Clarksville an opportunity to apply for public service funding.
- 1:14:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right now, we're doing that with Matthew Walker,
- 1:14:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Irene Center for Hope,
- 1:14:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban Ministries receives a portion of that grant.
- 1:14:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know I'm missing somebody.
- 1:14:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we work very closely.
- 1:14:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript At Mana Cafe.
- 1:14:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's also a recipient of that grant funding.
- 1:14:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You answered my next question that I had for you.
- 1:14:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript One other question I do have is,
- 1:14:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we just recently approved a purchase,
- 1:14:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or allowed you to be able to purchase
- 1:14:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript three parcels of land, I believe it was,
- 1:14:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and this went through the same process, correct?
- 1:15:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 1:15:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Those were three parcels that we purchased.
- 1:15:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We used our CDBG funds
- 1:15:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because they were vacant properties
- 1:15:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in a low-income census tract.
- 1:15:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we purchased those properties,
- 1:15:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and we are activating those through Habitat for Humanity
- 1:15:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for low-income single-family housing.
- 1:15:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, so this is the normal process that we usually go through
- 1:15:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript any time that you're needing to utilize these funds.
- 1:15:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's going through your committee, the Finance Committee,
- 1:15:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then through to the Council.
- 1:15:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Absolutely.
- 1:15:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I appreciate your support for another parcel on Cedar Street
- 1:15:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that was approved earlier this year
- 1:15:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for Appalachian Service Project.
- 1:15:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Those are three homes for tornado survivors.
- 1:15:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And you will be receiving an invitation
- 1:15:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for a ribbon-cutting here shortly.
- 1:15:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, thank you.
- 1:15:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I appreciate it.
- 1:15:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're welcome.
- 1:15:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, do you have questions for Ms. Alston?
- 1:15:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:15:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, I have one question for her.
- 1:15:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, you're recognized.
- 1:15:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:15:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Michelle.
- 1:15:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ms. Michelle, coming up and giving us this overview
- 1:16:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript about the well, appreciate that and all that you do.
- 1:16:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:16:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The purchase is $750,000.
- 1:16:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How much is our block grant that we receive?
- 1:16:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Every year, federal government.
- 1:16:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Annually, we receive over a billion dollars,
- 1:16:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript just over a million dollars in...
- 1:16:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A million or a billion, I'm sorry.
- 1:16:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You said a million?
- 1:16:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, say it into existence, but...
- 1:16:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript One million, just a little over one million.
- 1:16:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think it was $1,049,000 is what we've received this year
- 1:16:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in community block grant funding.
- 1:16:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That does not include home funding
- 1:16:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and some other grants that we apply for.
- 1:16:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's good.
- 1:16:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:16:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 1:16:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to say something.
- 1:16:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to finish.
- 1:16:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:16:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:16:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't have any more questions for her,
- 1:16:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I have something to say about this, okay?
- 1:16:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I want you to understand this, too,
- 1:16:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and everybody understand this,
- 1:16:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that my constituents are not against helping the homeless.
- 1:16:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Many of them have helped the homeless,
- 1:17:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they still help the homeless.
- 1:17:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I, myself, have, too, and still do.
- 1:17:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:17:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Their concern is the location.
- 1:17:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The location is downtown, and we know that,
- 1:17:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's in the heart of downtown.
- 1:17:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Some people think the heart of downtown is just where the public's,
- 1:17:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the park is.
- 1:17:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No. It spreads out.
- 1:17:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But the location is their concern
- 1:17:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and how it will affect their businesses.
- 1:17:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we heard that at the meeting, but a lot of them did not get
- 1:17:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to voice their concerns.
- 1:17:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They, you know, we were rushing for time.
- 1:17:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Not rushing, but we gave them time,
- 1:17:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but they just didn't get to voice their concerns.
- 1:17:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so they want to see the location changed.
- 1:17:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We don't want to talk about, you know, how it would make the city look,
- 1:17:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or are we going to get an influx of more homeless people.
- 1:18:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But the location is the problem, and I have a problem with that.
- 1:18:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because after doing my research, I found out that my ward,
- 1:18:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ward C, is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
- 1:18:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
- 1:18:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean the ward C has about six, the low income area,
- 1:18:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript has about 10 homeless shelters, or any shape, form,
- 1:18:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or fashion as to how they take care of the homeless people.
- 1:18:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, some provide clothes so.
- 1:18:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Oh, absolutely.
- 1:18:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You see what I'm saying?
- 1:18:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In many shapes, form, and fashion.
- 1:18:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have a great community.
- 1:18:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so there's only one, and I think it's in Ward 4,
- 1:18:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and that's the Menna Cafe,
- 1:18:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is right across the street from my ward, okay?
- 1:18:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it used to be in my ward until we had to rezone it.
- 1:18:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so my concern is this, is why we have to buy that building and add more influx of the homeless here downtown.
- 1:18:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so I was thinking, you know, to be fair and to balance this situation, why don't we put it in another neighborhood?
- 1:19:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Why don't we put it somewhere else?
- 1:19:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because, you know, we know that we want downtown to be vibrant, energetic, live, healthy, and safe.
- 1:19:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But some people don't feel safe.
- 1:19:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As I was out there doing an interview with Channel 2 or whoever it was, I can't remember who it was.
- 1:19:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But anyway, there was a man out there just yelling and cussing, homeless man.
- 1:19:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean, you know, wasn't nothing being said about him because we respect the homeless.
- 1:19:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But he's definitely somebody that could be served at this location.
- 1:19:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have that downtown right now.
- 1:19:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Homeless is out there.
- 1:19:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He's right out there sitting on that bench cussing and carrying on.
- 1:19:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we was trying to do an interview.
- 1:19:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we can't pretend that we don't see this because we see this all the time.
- 1:19:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So my concern is why do we have to purchase at that location?
- 1:19:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Can we find another location?
- 1:19:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I appreciate the mayor, what he's trying to do.
- 1:19:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He wants to help because I know he loves helping the homeless, and I do too.
- 1:20:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You know, it hurts my heart.
- 1:20:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's so hard to see people like this, you know, but and we just want to know can we have another meeting with the business owners who voice their concerns or and get something settled because they just don't think that they were informed properly, okay?
- 1:20:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Would you like for me to answer that question?
- 1:20:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Please do.
- 1:20:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So as far as the location, the reason why we like this location is because we can consolidate some of the services that are already in place.
- 1:20:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we can consolidate some of the services that are already being provided in the downtown area.
- 1:20:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban Ministries, their grace assistance program, is on 3rd Street.
- 1:20:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is two blocks more towards the center of downtown than this location.
- 1:20:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The well is already providing hot meals in the evening, church service, and food and clothing distribution.
- 1:20:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The warming shelter is located at Madison Street Methodist Church, which is, again, two blocks over.
- 1:20:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're just relocating that to this building.
- 1:20:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're just moving all of those that are already happening in the downtown area.
- 1:21:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript To one central location and expanding our case management on that site and our hours of operation so we can have more oversight.
- 1:21:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So how many beds do you plan to have in that place?
- 1:21:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When it opens for emergency shelter during those extreme weather situations, that is going to have to be determined when we do the walkthrough with our fire marshal and our codes department.
- 1:21:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so that will happen after we take ownership and do those final site plans.
- 1:21:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what would you like to have?
- 1:21:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript For an emergency shelter right now?
- 1:21:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript For our men, I'm thinking 60. Right now, I think they're averaging about 50.
- 1:21:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript At our warming shelter, but we know that's going to increase as the winter goes on and more people exhaust those opportunities to
- 1:21:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript find services and then add on our women. And that is a smaller number than our men.
- 1:21:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript About 100, 150, 100 something.
- 1:22:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I would say closer to that.
- 1:22:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript About 80.
- 1:22:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript 80?
- 1:22:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript About 80?
- 1:22:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's what I would like to see there.
- 1:22:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's what I would like to see there.
- 1:22:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:22:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Is this going to be a long-term stay?
- 1:22:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know you said you want to get them out so that they can get them a job and try to get
- 1:22:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript them on their feet.
- 1:22:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what is the stay, the minimum stay that a homeless person can stay there?
- 1:22:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Currently our emergency shelters, we call it white flag, only opens when our temperatures
- 1:22:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript drop below 35 degrees three nights in a row.
- 1:22:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is the current process.
- 1:22:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript At their current location, those guests have to leave.
- 1:22:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They leave at 7 a.m.
- 1:22:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We would prefer that that site, well, it will stay open.
- 1:22:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's going to be Grace Assistance or Urban Ministries' new site of operation.
- 1:22:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they'll be there all day long where they can provide that all case management throughout
- 1:22:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the day.
- 1:22:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So she said she wanted the hours operation to be longer.
- 1:22:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it will be open seven days a week?
- 1:22:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Is that the plan?
- 1:22:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're not open seven days a week right now, but.
- 1:22:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm talking about when we purchased this building and set it up for this.
- 1:23:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This plan that you have put in place.
- 1:23:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah.
- 1:23:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Y'all have proposed before us.
- 1:23:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So how long?
- 1:23:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What's the operations?
- 1:23:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That will be part of the final lease agreement and service agreement that we enter into.
- 1:23:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we don't know that right now.
- 1:23:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Everything is just kind of.
- 1:23:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I am going to argue for seven days a week.
- 1:23:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Seven days a week.
- 1:23:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because right now we know we need seven days a week with.
- 1:23:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What will be the hours of operation?
- 1:23:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Please, ma'am.
- 1:23:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you.
- 1:23:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You already got the seven days.
- 1:23:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What time?
- 1:23:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't have those facts.
- 1:23:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I would like to see the basic business hours during the day.
- 1:23:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Also with that hotline overnight, just like they utilize for the safe house.
- 1:23:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That'll be answered 24 seven.
- 1:23:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what time would they have to be off the streets?
- 1:23:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because we know that's the problem that these business are talking about.
- 1:23:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That they'll be laying around the streets and some of the tourists might not even want
- 1:23:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to come here.
- 1:23:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're trying to build up downtown and that's something I ran on.
- 1:23:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to make it vibrant, live.
- 1:24:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 1:24:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want the same thing for unhoused through case management.
- 1:24:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's what we spoke about, that they will be more quickly able to enter into housing.
- 1:24:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They are going to get the mental health, behavioral health services that they need.
- 1:24:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we, none of us want folks lingering on, on, on the streets.
- 1:24:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We want them in service.
- 1:24:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so that's going to be an opportunity.
- 1:24:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If that does happen, that our friends at urban ministries can go to that location, connect
- 1:24:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with that individual.
- 1:24:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And try to work with them to get them into a safer location.
- 1:24:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You know, uh, thinking back, uh, many years ago when I was on the, I'm still on the council,
- 1:24:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but many years ago, uh, there was another mayor here and, uh, we sent people out, uh,
- 1:24:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to go and check on, uh, the homeless to see if they want to be put in a shelter.
- 1:24:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And majority of them said, no, I couldn't understand why they didn't want to be in a
- 1:24:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript shelter.
- 1:24:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, some do this to make money.
- 1:25:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Some stand on the corner.
- 1:25:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know because I've handed out money and they stand on the corner and they'll tell you they're
- 1:25:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript homeless.
- 1:25:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But then when you see them leave in a brand new car or a brand new Jeep, are they really
- 1:25:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript homeless?
- 1:25:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I can't answer that question.
- 1:25:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Oh, I know they're not.
- 1:25:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I can answer it because I had a guy to come and tell me, I'm just trying to give you an
- 1:25:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript example here.
- 1:25:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:25:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've been giving people money for years.
- 1:25:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Every time I see them, I'm giving them money, giving them money, 5, 10, 15, 20, whatever.
- 1:25:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You know what he told me one day in Walmart, walked up to me, he said, ma'am, I know you.
- 1:25:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said, you always give us money.
- 1:25:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said, this outfit I got on right now is brand new.
- 1:25:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said, but you know what?
- 1:25:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We really didn't need that money.
- 1:25:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I said, what?
- 1:25:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said, uh, we used to drink that money up.
- 1:25:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said, but I thank you.
- 1:25:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is a terrible story.
- 1:25:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I said, really?
- 1:25:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I said, but you, you telling me that you really didn't need?
- 1:25:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, we parted it up.
- 1:25:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We parted it up.
- 1:26:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we gave it to a church one time.
- 1:26:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I'm just giving you an example of what, does homeless look like this?
- 1:26:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Or is this?
- 1:26:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Not from my experience.
- 1:26:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mine either.
- 1:26:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah.
- 1:26:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we have to be careful when we call people homeless.
- 1:26:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Are they really homeless?
- 1:26:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And like I said, I'm for homeless people because I'm always helping, always.
- 1:26:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So with that being said, I see that you don't have a plan as to how this thing is going
- 1:26:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to operate yet.
- 1:26:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is not correct.
- 1:26:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No ma'am.
- 1:26:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So every ministry does have a business plan for this site.
- 1:26:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have a budget.
- 1:26:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When I asked you what would be the hours of operation, you said you didn't know that.
- 1:26:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I asked you how many days.
- 1:26:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That doesn't mean that there's not a plan.
- 1:26:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That just means I'm not familiar with what the hours of operation.
- 1:26:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But do we know the plan?
- 1:26:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript See the resident, the business people need to know the plan.
- 1:26:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's their cry.
- 1:26:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They need to know the plan.
- 1:26:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What, what are the plans?
- 1:26:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How's it going to affect our business downtown?
- 1:26:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How's it going to affect the tourists?
- 1:26:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So there are many questions that are unanswered and you can't answer them tonight.
- 1:27:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I'm, I'm perplexed as to what, how it's going to operate.
- 1:27:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What is it going to do?
- 1:27:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How long is it going to be open?
- 1:27:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, I mean, what, what are we looking at?
- 1:27:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't know.
- 1:27:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm still perplexed.
- 1:27:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:27:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes ma'am.
- 1:27:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Holloman, you're recognized.
- 1:27:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you mayor.
- 1:27:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Miss Austin.
- 1:27:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the more services and benefits you provide the homeless, like the more homeless you want
- 1:27:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to be, the more opportunities you will have.
- 1:27:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like that is a rule of thumbs for cities.
- 1:27:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like if you opened up a hotel room specifically for homeless people, whether it's to whether
- 1:27:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the intention is to help locals, um, if you, if you say, okay, it's for local homeless
- 1:27:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript only, like I guarantee there'd be a massive influx of homeless people coming into the
- 1:27:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript city.
- 1:27:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like that's just the nature of it.
- 1:27:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like when you're in that situation, you're going to seek the best opportunity you can
- 1:27:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript from the people that are giving it out.
- 1:27:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so I guess my question to you is, so how does, if we, if we do this, we're going to
- 1:27:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript do this, this, um, the well or whatever, if we do this, how does it not increase the
- 1:28:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript homeless population?
- 1:28:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, so the facts that you just shared are facts that I have never heard and I would
- 1:28:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript love if you would share that information with me so I could check your references.
- 1:28:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sure.
- 1:28:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:28:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Are you going to answer the question?
- 1:28:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Could you repeat the question for me please?
- 1:28:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript How does it not increase the homeless population if we approve this?
- 1:28:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because we are working individually with people through their recovery so they are able to
- 1:28:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript be more self-sufficient and be active members of our community.
- 1:28:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So is there like an identification card for locals?
- 1:28:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So like if a homeless person from Hopkinsville comes down here and sees, sees this opportunity
- 1:28:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and is like, yeah, I definitely want to take, take advantage of that.
- 1:28:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, can you identify them or do you provide that service to them?
- 1:28:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Oh, I would, we would absolutely not brand people like that.
- 1:28:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it does increase the homeless population?
- 1:28:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No.
- 1:28:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that's not what I said.
- 1:28:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But right now we are sending our population.
- 1:28:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's what happens.
- 1:28:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In Nashville.
- 1:28:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's what happens.
- 1:28:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, okay.
- 1:28:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 1:28:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, we'll, we'll pretend like it doesn't increase the homeless population.
- 1:29:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Providing more services and benefits for homeless people does not increase the homeless population.
- 1:29:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We'll just pretend.
- 1:29:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:29:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Let's be respectful please.
- 1:29:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 1:29:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ms. Councilman.
- 1:29:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm sorry.
- 1:29:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I apologize.
- 1:29:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, they're already being served so why would we expand services?
- 1:29:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we, so we could provide more extensive services.
- 1:29:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right now they are being served with a bed and food and a little bit of case management.
- 1:29:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we know that that needs to be, recovery requires much more extensive work than what we're able to provide in the hours of operation at our warming shelter.
- 1:29:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:29:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Do you really think that they're going to follow these, these rules?
- 1:29:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, sir.
- 1:29:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're required by city code.
- 1:29:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That, that doesn't mean anything to them though.
- 1:29:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript At this city on property.
- 1:29:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But that, that doesn't mean anything.
- 1:29:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like, like so, so no alcohol, no drugs.
- 1:29:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So, so you think the majority of people coming in will, at any rate.
- 1:29:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Adhere to these rules.
- 1:29:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They do that right now.
- 1:29:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They do that right now.
- 1:29:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, sir.
- 1:29:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've got, I've heard stories from, from other nonprofits that, uh, that would actually like refute that.
- 1:30:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But, and, and I can't say whether they have, I'm sure they have no alcohol, no drugs rules.
- 1:30:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, but I've definitely heard of like warming shelters, like people bringing stuff in.
- 1:30:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Hmm.
- 1:30:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean like.
- 1:30:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They go through a metal detector.
- 1:30:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So.
- 1:30:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah.
- 1:30:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Metal detector.
- 1:30:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:30:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 1:30:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, uh, that's all I've got for now.
- 1:30:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:30:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:30:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Pam Clark.
- 1:30:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.
- 1:30:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you Mayor.
- 1:30:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have a couple of questions.
- 1:30:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes sir.
- 1:30:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript First question, are we on any, on a kind of deadline with the person wanting to sell
- 1:30:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this property?
- 1:30:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, they were not actively looking to sell it originally.
- 1:30:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When we talked to them they wanted to extend the mission that they, uh, were already, um,
- 1:30:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript working on at that site.
- 1:30:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so this just seemed like an ideal partnership for us.
- 1:30:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:30:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And another thing too.
- 1:30:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Are we on any kind of deadline on the block grant?
- 1:30:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript over this no sir we're we're meeting our timeliness deadlines for our community block
- 1:30:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript grants already so we're not really under the gun on anything at the moment is that what you're
- 1:31:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript telling me i'm talking about as far as buying the property as far as getting the funds from
- 1:31:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the federal government no sir we're not at the final hour trying to reach out for a hail mary
- 1:31:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but i don't see any reason right now why we should postpone this item now i got a comment or two to
- 1:31:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript make don't y'all love it uh i hear well we got a homeless problem i want everybody in this room
- 1:31:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and everybody listening or watching or wherever if we vote no on this we still got a homeless
- 1:31:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript problem if we vote yes we still got a homeless problem
- 1:31:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript got a homeless problem I'm all for as the old football coaches used to say
- 1:31:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript let's back up and punt and take a breath this was kind of quick I'll admit that
- 1:32:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the meeting Friday night was great but I would still like to hear more from and
- 1:32:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm not belittling the business owners downtown at all but I would like to hear
- 1:32:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript more from the general citizens of the city and see what they think I'm going to tell
- 1:32:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you folks this has been a homeless has been a problem anybody remember Mr. Jim Amos
- 1:32:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript yes sir he first wanted to put Salvation Army up in the Providence at the old
- 1:32:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Providence Baptist Church
- 1:32:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript yes sir
- 1:32:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they fought him tooth and nail he wound up putting it on Craft Street
- 1:32:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Manor Cafe up in New Providence it was fought tooth and nail I was in my ward I
- 1:32:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript was city councilman I fought long and hard for Manor Cafe in fact had an
- 1:33:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript attorney in town that would just basically threatening to cut my head off
- 1:33:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if I continued to support him
- 1:33:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript my partner in law was a man who was a man who was a man who was a man who was a man
- 1:33:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll never forget thejobs and john went to work during Houston
- 1:33:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript no matter what we are going to have to address the homeless population some
- 1:33:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript how if that means folks go to New York city do they have a homeless problem
- 1:33:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript sure they do they even got hotels downtown is shelters but the difference
- 1:33:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is and nothing against cheap bird diner police department they do too better than a government agent
- 1:33:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a great job but they got five officers per block walking you know is it our responsibility when i
- 1:33:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript say our responsibility i'm talking about the city to sit down try to come up with the plan because
- 1:34:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we're going to have a homeless problem whether we throw this out the window or we decide to do it
- 1:34:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we need to tackle the homeless problem guess what folks clarkville when i grew i was born raised here
- 1:34:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript 71 years ago it was a little bitty town over the last 71 years we wanted to be the big metropolis
- 1:34:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript town well guess what folks we're finally making it we have homeless we have murders we have robberies
- 1:34:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's this body in this city's responsibility to do something about it and remember this
- 1:34:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript jesus never turned his back on anybody period thank you thank you councilman
- 1:35:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript councilman mclaughlin you are recognized did you want to respond i just wanted to make a note when
- 1:35:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript he talks about the city needs to do something we have our canopy initiative
- 1:35:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is essentially a harmless services task force it has a they have a standing meeting the
- 1:35:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript first tuesday of every month they met earlier today just before this meeting and so that is a
- 1:35:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript body of about 30 non-profit organizations here in clarksville that all have an arm to support
- 1:35:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript our unhoused and they are actively working on a strategic plan to address our homelessness
- 1:35:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript by reducing the duplication of services and again making those measurable
- 1:35:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript objectives and just so you know what we're planning to do today what we want to do tomorrow
- 1:35:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as far as 24 7 sheltering at an alternative site not this location um but that is all part of that
- 1:35:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript larger city plan of of these um organizers and if anybody is interested in being part of that
- 1:36:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript initiative i invite them to reach out to me um for any of our non-profits they're they're all at
- 1:36:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the table thank you for that
- 1:36:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript okay just i knew you were going to say something so i just want to give you thank you for the last one
- 1:36:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript um over the past three years um well say two years with you and the director's position
- 1:36:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of community neighborhood services um i think that there has you have filled a role that we've
- 1:36:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript needed in a long time somebody that takes every action that you do personally and um i appreciate
- 1:36:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that you have a true servant's heart and you're you're in the right position for that spent a lot
- 1:36:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of time with you during the flooding in my ward and without you who would have known what happened
- 1:36:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to those people they could have been unhoused also and you fought tooth and nail for them and i
- 1:36:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript appreciate that absolutely thank you for your work during that time as well um what one question i
- 1:36:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript have is um what are the current operates operations for the the program at the well
- 1:37:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript um so the well of course that is the ministry of trenton crossing church of christ
- 1:37:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they have a lot of work to do and they have a lot of work to do and they have a lot of work to do and
- 1:37:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript hot meals twice a week and i believe it's monday and wednesday um during those hot meals they have
- 1:37:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript over a hundred people who come to those meals that is of course are unhoused that are in the
- 1:37:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript downtown area it's also some seniors some families um the doors are open to anybody who is seeking a
- 1:37:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript hot meal they also have a clothing distribution day they have an extensive clothing closet and
- 1:37:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when i say that the entire basement looks like dillard's um and so that is another area of their
- 1:37:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript ministry and then they have church on sundays
- 1:37:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript okay so right now it's like two half days pretty much as yes it's very limited hours
- 1:37:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so they're right now the reason i ask this is um up on our part of clarksville there have been
- 1:37:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript several homeless encampments and as property owners realize that those are happening our
- 1:38:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript police department will go and and move them and then they end up on somebody else's property
- 1:38:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript um and then building codes has to go clean up the mess um and it's it's not good conditions
- 1:38:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then they end up on somebody else's property um and then they end up on somebody else's property
- 1:38:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the reason i ask this is um first of all i've already expressed that i'm in favor of postponing
- 1:38:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this just so that people can get more information and have um some dialogue and learn more about what
- 1:38:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to expect um but i still still want to ask this question um so if and when um there there are
- 1:38:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript expanded hours at let's say the well or another location um do you anticipate
- 1:38:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that if law enforcement comes across um an encampment of trespassers that they would be
- 1:38:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript able to offer they already do they offer rides to people all the time for the warming shelters but
- 1:38:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript an opportunity to go to the well or another location supported by these non-profits
- 1:39:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript any time of day so that they don't end up just being relocated to another property
- 1:39:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then they're trespassed again and it's just like a revolving door so my question is
- 1:39:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript um you know if law enforcement does come across an encampment of trespassers
- 1:39:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript come across somebody if and when we do have a future location will the hours be expanded where
- 1:39:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript um they would be able to relocate them for services where they could hopefully you know
- 1:39:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript find a place to live or a program or whatnot that's a great question um so i'll start with
- 1:39:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript saying right now we do not have a 24-7 shelter right so there's not always a place for them to
- 1:39:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript go but in those situations we do want them connected with a provider who can navigate
- 1:39:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with them to see maybe what some of their options are
- 1:39:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or
- 1:39:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Urban Ministries has what they call the shelter phone, which is their 24-7 hotline,
- 1:39:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and so that would still be in effect.
- 1:39:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So even if the warming shelter was not open for a place for them to go,
- 1:39:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they could still be connected to someone.
- 1:39:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what happens during those moments is kind of like a triage situation.
- 1:40:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If that person who is being assisted, if that is a veteran,
- 1:40:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there might be some options for a veteran.
- 1:40:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There might be a pot of money for a hotel room until he can get connected with somebody.
- 1:40:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If that is a family with small children,
- 1:40:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there are some other opportunities for people in that situation.
- 1:40:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If it's a domestic violence survivor.
- 1:40:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So do you see what I'm understanding?
- 1:40:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not like there's nowhere to go, there's no answer.
- 1:40:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We want there to be a connection during that time
- 1:40:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so that person can be triaged into whatever services are available at that moment.
- 1:40:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, thank you.
- 1:40:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:40:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Marquis, you're recognized.
- 1:40:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:40:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, so this was kind of touched upon earlier a little bit,
- 1:40:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I wanted to ask it mainly because it was a question posted by a resident
- 1:40:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I didn't have the answer, so I told him I'd ask.
- 1:40:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it's about the CDBG application.
- 1:40:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know it was mentioned it's going to be opening from January 13th to February 9th,
- 1:40:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the question this individual had was, was this part of that?
- 1:41:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And how did we come to the conclusion to use these funds for this
- 1:41:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if we haven't happened?
- 1:41:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what's the application process and how, pretty much how we get there?
- 1:41:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, I would love to answer that.
- 1:41:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the application process that we have right now is for public service.
- 1:41:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I will say, and public services is like rental assistance, utility assistance,
- 1:41:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript those things that prevent somebody from becoming evicted or unhoused.
- 1:41:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We also use it through Matthew Walker for some dental care and some health care,
- 1:41:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript specifically for our residents who are over the age of 62 or under the age of 18.
- 1:41:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But as far as projects go, I have individuals and organizations
- 1:41:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that come to me regularly with an idea for a project, and we talk through that.
- 1:41:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But only those that come to me with a plan of action are the ones that we take to a fruitician.
- 1:42:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's typically, there's a lot of ideas out there, and there's a lot of things we want to support,
- 1:42:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I say, yep, and we bounce around some ideas.
- 1:42:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And until they come back with,
- 1:42:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript like, a plan, then it's not perceived.
- 1:42:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, well, so there's pretty much two main categories.
- 1:42:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like you said, you have the public service, they apply,
- 1:42:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then anything, big projects or something else.
- 1:42:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, but a lot of those projects are fruitful.
- 1:42:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right now we work with Mosaic Churches, Going Global, Going Local.
- 1:42:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They are our Trudeau, which is our community housing development organization.
- 1:42:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they are building affordable housing for us.
- 1:42:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're also Habitat for Children.
- 1:42:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Humanity has been a fruitful organization.
- 1:42:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We've had conversation with Loaves and Fishes about some transitional housing on their property.
- 1:42:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So these are all things that are in the hopper.
- 1:42:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're just waiting for people to put the numbers together.
- 1:42:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay, and then the other question I have is, I guess,
- 1:42:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there's, it seems like a lot of people are trying to wrap their head around
- 1:43:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript why the purchase in the sense of the city being the middleman.
- 1:43:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because, you know, you have one organization who's doing,
- 1:43:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you know, their work, and then you have another organization doing their work.
- 1:43:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it seems like we're just going to kind of come in by one and then lease to the other.
- 1:43:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Why not, why not just them work together, I guess?
- 1:43:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah. So a lot of our organizations don't really have the funding bandwidth.
- 1:43:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that's where we come in to help is make those connections.
- 1:43:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We see this as a community service project.
- 1:43:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean, this is a gap in our community.
- 1:43:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is something that we focus on in my office to address homelessness.
- 1:43:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And it's a great solution for us to invest these CDBG funds into a property
- 1:43:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we own and have some oversight over.
- 1:43:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay. And then again, I know I have mentioned to you, but I do have security concerns.
- 1:43:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I just feel like it's been mentioned before by them about their time constraints with the area
- 1:44:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that they live in, or excuse me, the area that they use.
- 1:44:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And having to be out at the building by a certain time because of it.
- 1:44:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then I just feel like it's,
- 1:44:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's hard to then move that somewhere else where in my head,
- 1:44:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm perceiving the same security issues that I did email you about that.
- 1:44:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But yes.
- 1:44:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:44:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Brown, you're recognized.
- 1:44:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, mayor.
- 1:44:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I have a little bit different concern on this or question saying that the ordinance says
- 1:44:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that the city will purchase the property in partnership with urban ministries and the whale.
- 1:44:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And there's been mentioned about a long-term lease to urban ministries,
- 1:44:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but there's nothing in this ordinance that says anything about a leasing it to them and a timeframe.
- 1:44:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This, my concern is, well, besides the location, but the ordinance, what it is, is a long-term lease.
- 1:45:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You have to have an out or you have to have renewals.
- 1:45:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And if you do a lease where it's 10 years, you know, that's a long time.
- 1:45:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I mean, I would like to see something with the lease saying that it's reevaluated or renewed every two years or something.
- 1:45:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because if something is not going the way that we feel that it should be going with the leases,
- 1:45:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript 10, 20 years or a hundred years, like some things happen.
- 1:45:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have to have a way to.
- 1:45:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Look at it and go, something's not right.
- 1:45:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to reevaluate this lease and have a way to get out of it.
- 1:45:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You know, if it's two years to where, you know, we get time or you have a new mayor comes in or new council,
- 1:45:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they could reevaluate this and say, is this being done the way it should be?
- 1:46:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that the owners of the properties around it, the businesses, you know, if they're not, don't see that this is going right,
- 1:46:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript right.
- 1:46:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That there could be a ending point that it would get reevaluated.
- 1:46:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's a great point because we are using community block grant funding for this initiative.
- 1:46:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It would have to be monitored every two years, just like properties that we purchased for Buffalo Valley 20 years ago.
- 1:46:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Our staff still goes out every two years and visits those sites to make sure that they still align with housing quality inspections, but also that they're used for the same purpose that that funding was.
- 1:46:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Was, um, was used to.
- 1:46:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Purchase that asset, right?
- 1:46:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And and that's just what I'm, you know, saying that in in a lease, you have to have a time frame to where you can say this is the date you better be doing it right or the lease is expiring.
- 1:46:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I I agree with you and Mr Bittner is going to assist me with that.
- 1:46:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:47:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Hopefully, Councilman Streeman, you're recognized.
- 1:47:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't have any further questions.
- 1:47:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have comments to make, and if no one has any other questions, nobody else is on the board.
- 1:47:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Miss Austin.
- 1:47:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um.
- 1:47:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'd like to.
- 1:47:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript First.
- 1:47:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript First of all, echo the sentiments of Ward two and in regard to Miss Austin, I fully trust her ability to be able to bring this to us as well as monitor this situation as it went forward, whether it was changes that needed to be made down the road.
- 1:47:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But her partnership with Urban Ministries, her heart, her research, her involvement in this topic, especially with the canopy initiative and essentially the task force that has been working on this, I've got the full faith in her.
- 1:47:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ability.
- 1:47:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Ability to be able to do this, I thank her for everything that she has done for our community, not only on this, but everything that was referenced before as well.
- 1:47:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I also, uh, understand exactly what the council person from Ward four stated that we have a problem either way you look at it.
- 1:47:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, one of the things that I've said in some different conversations that I've had with people, if nothing changes, nothing changes.
- 1:48:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If we don't do anything to make a difference, you're not going to see anything different than what we already have.
- 1:48:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And for years.
- 1:48:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Now I've heard, uh, had people come up to me and say to me, we need to do something about this homeless situation that we have downtown.
- 1:48:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is a step to try and start doing something more than what's already being done.
- 1:48:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is offering more services.
- 1:48:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not offering a place for a shelter, as was stated for people to be able to stay there 24 seven.
- 1:48:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is a beginning step to start offering more services to the individuals in our community that are in need of these.
- 1:48:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As you see that.
- 1:48:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There was different services that were going to be offered for our individuals, and that includes when you think about showering services and laundry services, I've heard how, uh, customers and people from the community are afraid to come downtown.
- 1:48:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They get scared when they see a homeless person walking towards them.
- 1:48:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This would allow them the opportunity for both again, the showering services and the laundry services.
- 1:49:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If that person was able to be able to take a shower to have clean clothes, are they going to look like that homeless person coming towards you?
- 1:49:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Are they?
- 1:49:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're just going to look like any other person that's walking around in our downtown area, the ability to be able to have clean clothes and be able to have good hygiene for themselves will help enable them to be able to obtain employment, obtain better employment, keep employment as well as will kind of embolden themselves to have more confidence in themselves to believe in themselves that they're worth more than just living on the street.
- 1:49:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, I have.
- 1:49:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've heard from everybody.
- 1:49:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I understand the small business owners in our downtown area, not wanting to have this here, but the, the homeless population is already there.
- 1:49:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is a way to serve them and try and improve the problem.
- 1:49:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I understand that we really need to do a multi-prong approach, but this is one prong that we need to step forward on and try and help out.
- 1:50:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As was stated, you're talking about this being actually a little bit further away from where there's already.
- 1:50:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um,
- 1:50:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript an emergency shelter and where urban ministries is already located at.
- 1:50:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This will allow them additional hours to be able to serve the public.
- 1:50:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, I know that they talked about two growing in case managers and to be able to offer more case management to these individuals that are there.
- 1:50:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But if we never do anything about it, nothing is going to change and you're going to continue to see the same thing.
- 1:50:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll have more to say on this when we talk on Thursday night, but right now I, my stance has not changed.
- 1:50:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm.
- 1:50:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In support of this.
- 1:50:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I appreciate the years of research that has gone into this and work on this.
- 1:50:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I, again, thank miss Austin for everything that she has done to try and bring this before us through the same process that we've had with everything else with the money that was spent for the parcels that was referenced before for the last 12 months worth of items that she's brought before us.
- 1:51:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this council has trusted her when she has done so and allowed her to be able to move forward.
- 1:51:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript On these projects.
- 1:51:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:51:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman smith, you're recognized.
- 1:51:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:51:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, I would just like to say, I want to thank you, miss Austin.
- 1:51:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're working hard.
- 1:51:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know you knew it this, but you're getting your, you're getting your feet wet, you running, you're running with it, but I want to thank all of the other nonprofits out here who are helping the homeless throughout the year, way before we even done this, people have been helping the homeless for years.
- 1:51:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There are so many nonprofits out here that I have, I know about that.
- 1:51:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's been.
- 1:51:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've been doing this.
- 1:51:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is nothing new.
- 1:51:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what miss Austin is doing is nothing new.
- 1:51:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's been going on for years in this city, but we thank miss Austin for what she is doing.
- 1:51:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript She's learning, she's getting her feet wet and she's stepping and I thank her for that.
- 1:51:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But as I said, um, we have, uh, what six whole, all of the, uh, nonprofits that take care of those who are less fortunate.
- 1:52:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have about 10, as I said, homeless shelters in this ward.
- 1:52:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I think.
- 1:52:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to find a new location to put this, uh, I mean, I, I think the mayor and applaud
- 1:52:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript him for wanting to do this.
- 1:52:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He wants to help the homeless.
- 1:52:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that.
- 1:52:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I know he has a hard for it.
- 1:52:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I do too.
- 1:52:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We all do.
- 1:52:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so, but we just think to be fair, we do need to find another location and, um, and
- 1:52:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think that would, um, ease the concerns, um, and make people feel, you know, uh, better
- 1:52:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript about having their businesses downtown.
- 1:52:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Uh, I think we need to listen to them.
- 1:52:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to listen to our people who bring tax dollars into this city.
- 1:52:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We need to listen to them and we need to try to accommodate them in such a way that it
- 1:52:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript would help their business to grow.
- 1:52:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they would have a safe area to work in, uh, not saying that they create all the crimes,
- 1:52:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but you know, I've seen some treacherous things and you have too.
- 1:53:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We all have.
- 1:53:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But, uh, as I said, I just think that we need to find a new location.
- 1:53:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We don't have a problem with helping the homeless.
- 1:53:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As I said, that's my home.
- 1:53:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's my heart.
- 1:53:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Part of my heart.
- 1:53:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But, uh, we just need to find a new location.
- 1:53:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, mayor.
- 1:53:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Holloman.
- 1:53:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're recognized.
- 1:53:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, mayor.
- 1:53:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Um, so I, I, I very much do believe that this will increase the homeless population and
- 1:53:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript then services will be stretched anyways.
- 1:53:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So under that logic, so it's like, okay, so our homeless populations like this slow trickle
- 1:53:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript of homeless people coming in, not going to deny that we do have a problem or we can allocate
- 1:53:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript more money.
- 1:53:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We can build in some more services and then have a homeless population like this with
- 1:53:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript stretched services, because no matter what the services are going to be stretched.
- 1:53:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's all I've got.
- 1:53:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 1:53:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Anybody else?
- 1:53:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript God help us.
- 1:53:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman Streetman.
- 1:53:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're recognized.
- 1:53:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, mayor.
- 1:53:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I apologize.
- 1:53:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript One second.
- 1:54:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Resolution 3620 2526, a resolution requesting the regional planning commission to perform
- 1:54:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a study with regard to title 11 zoning.
- 1:54:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chapter 11 administration and enforcement section 11.11 amendments affecting the same
- 1:54:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript parcel of land and return an ordinance for consideration by the Clarksville city council.
- 1:54:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The finance committee voted in favor of disapproval.
- 1:54:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mayor.
- 1:54:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'd like to turn the floor over to the sponsor of this councilman, Tim Chandler, councilman
- 1:54:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for ward four.
- 1:54:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 1:54:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler.
- 1:54:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're the sponsor.
- 1:54:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're recognized.
- 1:54:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, mayor.
- 1:54:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Uh, all this is, is back years ago.
- 1:54:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Wallace Redd introduced a rule and it's been known throughout history as the Wallace Redd
- 1:54:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript rule that when you brought a zoning case before the city council, that, uh, if it failed,
- 1:54:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript then you had to wait a year for you.
- 1:55:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Couldn't represent it somewhere along the way.
- 1:55:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That kind of got slid under the table, and now it says that any council person can bring
- 1:55:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript up, uh, a resolution.
- 1:55:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a no vote with 75% of the council for it to go any further.
- 1:55:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The original Wallace-Red rule made everything revert back to Robert's Rules of Order,
- 1:55:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which says the only way it could be brought back was a person had to be on the prevailing side,
- 1:55:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript meaning if they voted no and it failed, they could bring it back up.
- 1:55:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So all I'm doing is asking for this is to go back to the Wallace-Red rule.
- 1:55:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You get one shot at it, and attorneys here, they'll know what I'm talking about.
- 1:55:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You get one bite at the apple, and that's it.
- 1:55:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You don't get numerous bites at it.
- 1:55:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'm not accusing anybody on this council or anything or anybody,
- 1:56:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but they're leaving it like this.
- 1:56:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There is room for it to be.
- 1:56:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The name is used.
- 1:56:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:56:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 1:56:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 1:56:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Would it be possible, since this is referencing sending a –
- 1:56:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript asking the Regional Planning Commission to perform a study with this,
- 1:56:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript would it be possible to hear from Mr. Tindall and get their thoughts on this?
- 1:56:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Possible.
- 1:56:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Whether he wants to or not, it's up to him.
- 1:56:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall, you have the floor.
- 1:56:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's appropriate.
- 1:56:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, my time's up.
- 1:56:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Did you do that on purpose, Councilmember?
- 1:56:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's your walk-up music, Mr. Tindall.
- 1:56:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is.
- 1:56:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is ingrained in history right there.
- 1:56:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm kind of funny, you all.
- 1:56:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll respond to the Councilmember to sponsor's comments on this.
- 1:57:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When the zoning ordinance was completely redone in 2010, this was part of that rewrite,
- 1:57:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so there was nothing special or slid in since that fact.
- 1:57:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The current language, if none of you have looked at it, and I'll read it, it's just a sentence or three.
- 1:57:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Unless a previously allowed zoning amendment by City Council,
- 1:57:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript no action shall be initiated for a zoning amendment affecting the same parcel of land
- 1:57:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript no more often than once every 12 months,
- 1:57:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript provided, however, by resolution approved by a three-quarters majority of members present of the City Council,
- 1:57:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that action may be initiated at any time.
- 1:57:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Initiation is three ways of zoning.
- 1:57:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 1:57:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A zoning amendment can be initiated by petition of a property owner through application to the Planning Commission.
- 1:57:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The Planning Commission can recommend a zone change on a property independently,
- 1:57:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the City Council can recommend a zone change on a piece of property.
- 1:57:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What this two sentences basically says is if a zoning passes,
- 1:58:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so if you have a case ag to R1, you pass it, and then someone says,
- 1:58:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I really want to try for R2, they can come back in less than a year because it passed to the affirmative.
- 1:58:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If that gets denied,
- 1:58:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so you want to try for R2,
- 1:58:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if you want to go to ag to R5,
- 1:58:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript obviously maybe a little overshoot,
- 1:58:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it gets denied by City Council.
- 1:58:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A lot of land deals are contingent,
- 1:58:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so maybe that contingency fell through because that zoning was not passed.
- 1:58:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Now an owner has another buyer,
- 1:58:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they want to come in for maybe R1,
- 1:58:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and that's completely acceptable.
- 1:58:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Maybe it was expressed from City Council that you'd support R1.
- 1:58:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Without this clause in here,
- 1:58:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the landowner would have to wait an entire year to come back to the Planning Commission,
- 1:58:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to apply to try for the R1.
- 1:58:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're going to burn six to nine months there waiting to do that,
- 1:58:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript where this allows the landowner to come to City Council to ask for a sponsor,
- 1:58:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript one of you,
- 1:58:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to bring a resolution,
- 1:58:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's a three-quarters vote.
- 1:58:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's the most stringent vote level threshold to reach to reapply with the Planning Commission.
- 1:59:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I think when this came up,
- 1:59:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I asked the city clerk to do some research.
- 1:59:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think this has been attempted seven times in the last,
- 1:59:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript four or five years,
- 1:59:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and only three of those seven have prevailed,
- 1:59:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with the most recent one a month or two not passing.
- 1:59:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I think of it as a,
- 1:59:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in case of emergency,
- 1:59:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript break glass for the City Council,
- 1:59:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in case a property owner needs to do something,
- 1:59:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript wants to do something,
- 1:59:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's a request.
- 1:59:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's an ask to you all.
- 1:59:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You all can debate it.
- 1:59:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If it passes,
- 1:59:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it comes back to the Planning Commission.
- 1:59:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This really doesn't affect our workload one way or another.
- 1:59:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It would have prevented three zoning cases,
- 1:59:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in the last couple of years,
- 1:59:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript from coming back to us in less than a year.
- 1:59:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I think it's a good fail-safe.
- 1:59:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's there for a purpose.
- 1:59:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It has a purpose when needed,
- 1:59:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but you all can debate the need for that,
- 1:59:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript whether or not you want to hear each case on a case-by-case basis,
- 1:59:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with the language that's there.
- 2:00:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Striegman, you have the floor.
- 2:00:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript One more question.
- 2:00:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript One of the things that was discussed in the Finance Committee
- 2:00:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript was in regard to an applicant that requests a zoning change,
- 2:00:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's never been discussed.
- 2:00:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's never voted on.
- 2:00:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not voted on by the RPC.
- 2:00:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not voted on by the City Council.
- 2:00:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript However, they are still,
- 2:00:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the one-year rule still applies to them.
- 2:00:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I think you and I talked about this a little bit as well,
- 2:00:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and why that one year is in place on that.
- 2:00:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this is,
- 2:00:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll let you just talk about that.
- 2:00:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sorry.
- 2:00:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The original birth of the one-year waiting period
- 2:00:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the red rule,
- 2:00:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as was mentioned,
- 2:00:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is there were attempts back in the 90s and early 2000s,
- 2:00:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript a developer may come for R4, get denied,
- 2:00:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript come back next month, R4 again, R4 again,
- 2:00:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript until the community just becomes weary of combating
- 2:00:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or coming out against a zone change.
- 2:00:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the idea was if it's denied, you've got to wait,
- 2:00:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because you're just going to wear the community out.
- 2:00:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But this gives an opportunity or an out through the City Council.
- 2:01:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript When I said initiated originally,
- 2:01:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript initiated at the Planning Commission is through an application,
- 2:01:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript well,
- 2:01:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript there are times that the cases never actually make it to City Council.
- 2:01:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They'll apply with the Planning Commission after a month or two,
- 2:01:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the deal fell through,
- 2:01:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript someone got a better deal on the property,
- 2:01:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript maybe they're feeling the sense of the staff and the Planning Commission
- 2:01:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that it's not going to pass,
- 2:01:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they'll withdraw it before it even gets to City Council.
- 2:01:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, according to the zoning ordinance that has been initiated,
- 2:01:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the study's begun,
- 2:01:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they can't come back to the Planning Commission,
- 2:01:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and you might only be two months into the year,
- 2:01:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you have to wait 10 more months,
- 2:01:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and you've not even voted on it yet,
- 2:01:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and that has happened several times as well.
- 2:01:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it's a tool,
- 2:01:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's a tool for your use and for the property owner's use out there
- 2:01:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript when it's needed.
- 2:01:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't feel like it's abused,
- 2:01:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's there for when you need it.
- 2:01:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's all of my questions.
- 2:02:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I do have a comment, but I don't have any more.
- 2:02:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You have the floor.
- 2:02:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Well, you actually referenced,
- 2:02:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Tindall referenced the numbers that I was going to reference as well.
- 2:02:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I referenced them,
- 2:02:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I don't know if you can see them in the Finance Committee meeting.
- 2:02:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like I said, it was seven cases over five years.
- 2:02:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Three passed, three made it through
- 2:02:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and went back to the Regional Planning Commission,
- 2:02:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and out of those three, only two passed.
- 2:02:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And one of those two was an example of exactly what I asked Mr. Tindall about,
- 2:02:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript because they started the process, things completely changed,
- 2:02:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then they were going to have to wait, like he stated, another 10 months.
- 2:02:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So the council then,
- 2:02:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript approved it going back to the council,
- 2:02:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but to the Regional Planning Commission by that three-fourths majority.
- 2:02:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And just so everyone's clear in the public,
- 2:02:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that three-fourths majority out of 13 individuals,
- 2:02:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that means we have to have 10 people that are going to say yes.
- 2:02:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you have four people say no,
- 2:02:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript then they're going to have to wait that time.
- 2:02:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think that's a fair tool, as you mentioned,
- 2:03:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to have in the event that someone does want something completely different
- 2:03:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript after listening to us to be able to have a better zoning
- 2:03:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript than what they were asking for,
- 2:03:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in the first place,
- 2:03:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or if something completely changes with the road,
- 2:03:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript or if it never makes it to us.
- 2:03:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think having that with that high threshold
- 2:03:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is a good safeguard to keep in place.
- 2:03:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I voted against it at the Finance Committee,
- 2:03:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I'll be voting against it Thursday night,
- 2:03:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript although I understand the point of the sponsor in bringing this forward.
- 2:03:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:03:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.
- 2:03:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I think that people are mixing apples and oranges here.
- 2:03:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the reason I say that is,
- 2:03:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript is we're talking about a no vote from this body,
- 2:03:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript not if the Planning Committee, somebody,
- 2:03:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if I'm a developer, I go to the Planning Commission,
- 2:03:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I change my mind or whatever,
- 2:03:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
- 2:04:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What I'm talking about is the Waller's Red Rule was,
- 2:04:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if this body votes it down,
- 2:04:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript you have to wait a year.
- 2:04:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Not anything, any snafus at Planning Commission,
- 2:04:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript not any snafus anywhere else.
- 2:04:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A vote of no from this body.
- 2:04:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Not what happens at the Planning Commission.
- 2:04:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Planning Commission sends stuff to us all the time,
- 2:04:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript disapproval, and we approve it.
- 2:04:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They send us stuff, approval, and we disapprove it.
- 2:04:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Again, just like I said in the Finance Committee,
- 2:04:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Regional Planning Commission is an advisory council.
- 2:04:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We are a legislative council.
- 2:04:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They can give us a recommendation,
- 2:04:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and it's entirely up to us to pass the ordinances,
- 2:04:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript resolutions, or whatever.
- 2:04:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'm through with it.
- 2:04:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:05:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you're recognized.
- 2:05:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:05:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript To be clear, it's not apples to oranges.
- 2:05:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's apples to apples.
- 2:05:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As he just stated, and as I explained,
- 2:05:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript once the application process has begun,
- 2:05:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it's not dependent upon it just being a no vote.
- 2:05:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If the application process has begun,
- 2:05:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript if it's not an approval, then that process started,
- 2:05:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and they would have to wait the entire year.
- 2:05:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that's where the key is on, is whether it's an approval.
- 2:05:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If it's approved, then, like he stated,
- 2:05:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they can actually continue to apply over and over again
- 2:05:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript as long as they get an approval.
- 2:05:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But that was the only point that I tried to make in Finance
- 2:05:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that I've made here.
- 2:05:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And has been supported by Mr. Tindall as well in his explanation.
- 2:05:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:05:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Chandler, you're recognized.
- 2:05:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Bettner, you are the city attorney.
- 2:05:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If I, as a developer, apply to the Planning Commission,
- 2:06:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and something happens at the Planning Commission
- 2:06:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that it doesn't get brought to this board,
- 2:06:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript does that prevent them from bringing it to us later on in that year?
- 2:06:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Bettner, that's a question for you.
- 2:06:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Apparently, your name was called.
- 2:06:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, unfortunately, it's not in the zoning code that way,
- 2:06:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but it is under Title I, Chapter II,
- 2:06:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript under the City Council General Rules of Order.
- 2:06:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what Tindall said is correct, that if it is withdrawn,
- 2:06:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript then there is 12 months,
- 2:06:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript waiting period, unless you have the three-fourths.
- 2:06:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It kind of mimics the zoning code,
- 2:06:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript so it is a three-fourths approval of the City Council members.
- 2:06:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 2:06:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So could you send that to me so I can put a resolution to change that?
- 2:07:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 2:07:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, I will.
- 2:07:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:07:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Appreciate it.
- 2:07:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:07:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any more comment or question regarding this resolution?
- 2:07:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Back to you, Chairman Streetman.
- 2:07:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That concludes my report, Mayor.
- 2:07:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you very much.
- 2:07:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for neighborhood and community services.
- 2:07:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The Chairman is not here, and he'll have a report on Thursday.
- 2:07:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Parks and Recreation Committee Chairman Zacharias, you're recognized.
- 2:07:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:07:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll have a full report on Thursday,
- 2:07:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript but I do like to use this time to highlight some community events
- 2:07:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that Parks and Rec are doing for people that might want to get registered
- 2:07:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript before our next meeting.
- 2:07:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Heart and Help is a support program for parents and caregivers of individuals
- 2:07:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with autism, Down syndrome, developmental delays, and other special needs.
- 2:07:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They meet at the Crow Rec Center on Wednesday evenings.
- 2:07:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then Lean To, Crafts, and Connections is a support and fellowship program
- 2:07:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for residents who are coping with the loss of a significant other.
- 2:07:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they meet on Fridays at Burt Cobb.
- 2:07:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And if anybody's interested in either of those programs,
- 2:07:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they're encouraged to visit ClarksvilleParksRec.com
- 2:08:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript for registration information.
- 2:08:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that concludes my report.
- 2:08:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you very much.
- 2:08:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Public Safety Committee, Chairman Lovato, you're recognized.
- 2:08:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:08:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:08:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll have a full report on Thursday, but we do have the EMR standards update,
- 2:08:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript with Chief Freddie Montgomery.
- 2:08:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chief Montgomery, your name was called.
- 2:08:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He says he needs a whole hour.
- 2:08:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're out of order, sir.
- 2:08:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's past my bedtime.
- 2:08:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll be brief.
- 2:08:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 2:08:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So this is basically informational.
- 2:08:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's about the EMR standards update.
- 2:08:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The logic is not anything new to Clarksville.
- 2:08:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Clarksville Fire Rescue, over the last six years,
- 2:08:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've used data to raise the standard in a bunch of different areas.
- 2:08:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So a lot of y'all that have been here noticed that I've always taken these opportunities to do that.
- 2:08:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we've been looking at some data and saw a few gaps.
- 2:08:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I'm just going to go over what we're doing internally to fix that gap
- 2:09:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and how we're addressing that.
- 2:09:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So with the EMR minimum standards adjustment,
- 2:09:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript what we're doing is we're making EMR a minimum standard for all personnel at Clarksville Fire Rescue,
- 2:09:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript primarily starting with all fire suppression personnel that are on the 24-hour shift and delivering the service.
- 2:09:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the reason we're doing this is because basically 80%, nearly 80% of our calls are all medical calls,
- 2:09:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which in our current situation, not all of our suppression personnel can provide medical service.
- 2:09:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we were sitting somewhere around 60% of our people could do that.
- 2:09:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we wanted to improve that.
- 2:09:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We wanted to be a better department and be able to provide that service when we're out in the public.
- 2:09:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So by raising the minimum standard, we're ensuring that we can provide the service.
- 2:09:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that will support our rescue response and enhance public safety.
- 2:10:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And by enhancing public safety, what I want to do is minimize the chances that we're out there
- 2:10:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and we're out in public and there's a medical emergency and we can't provide the service.
- 2:10:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Currently, you know, I use the comparison that if you're out in public and a fire truck is there,
- 2:10:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript an engine company is there, and you have a medical emergency,
- 2:10:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in our current situation, we may not be able to help you.
- 2:10:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That crew may have to call for help.
- 2:10:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we don't want to be in that situation.
- 2:10:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And this will eliminate that.
- 2:10:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Once this plan goes into place, which it's already started, basically.
- 2:10:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right, so the current status, how we're going to tell you how we're going to get there.
- 2:10:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We currently have 84 people that are paid below the EMR level.
- 2:10:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're raising the standard, but we also want to compensate them for meeting that new minimum standard.
- 2:11:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So everybody that is paid below that $52,347, they're going to be moved up to that base EMR pay.
- 2:11:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what that looks like right now is 84 personnel in the department.
- 2:11:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have 51 that are already, that number says 53, but we have 51 that are already certified as EMRs.
- 2:11:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we're starting to process to move them up to that EMR base pay.
- 2:11:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That will be our first step.
- 2:11:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then we have 16 recruits that are currently in the academy.
- 2:11:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they will soon follow that in about 90 days once they graduate.
- 2:11:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript From the academy.
- 2:11:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then we have 15 additional personnel to certify by January 1, 2027.
- 2:11:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're going to accomplish this using no new money.
- 2:11:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's something that we can do internally.
- 2:11:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No new money from this year's budget.
- 2:11:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It will be in our future plans and future budgets to make sure that everyone we hire, once they graduate,
- 2:12:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they go to that EMR base pay level.
- 2:12:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So as I said, we'll adjust those salaries.
- 2:12:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have three phases basically that we're going to do that.
- 2:12:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so the basic cost, this first phase, it is under $181,000.
- 2:12:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that is over the next, the last six months of this fiscal year is what that's going to cost.
- 2:12:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then we're going to offer the training to adjust the salaries for newly certified EMRs and the recruits.
- 2:12:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript In our second phase.
- 2:12:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that's going to start around when they graduate their class and for the recruits in March when they graduate.
- 2:12:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Or once they have 90 days in after this first phase.
- 2:12:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the full implementation of this will be January 1, 2027.
- 2:12:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that's the basics of that.
- 2:13:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you have any questions, I'll take those now.
- 2:13:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Streetman, you have a question.
- 2:13:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:13:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not a question as much as I want to say thank you to you, Chief Montgomery.
- 2:13:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know you and I talked about this in finance.
- 2:13:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You and I talked about this as far back as May as this is something that you were wanting to work towards
- 2:13:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and get our department where we could do this.
- 2:13:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'm very grateful to you for everything you've done for this.
- 2:13:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know it's a win-win.
- 2:13:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's a win for our firefighters.
- 2:13:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But as discussed in the finance committee, it's an exceptional win for our city to be able to have those trained with the medical services
- 2:13:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to be able to serve anyone no matter the situation that they come upon,
- 2:13:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is different than what we've had in the past.
- 2:13:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So again, thank you for your work on this and grateful to you.
- 2:13:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're welcome.
- 2:13:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:13:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It is a step in the right direction.
- 2:13:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You know, all fire departments are mostly EMS now, running medical calls.
- 2:13:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we have to step up and fill that gap.
- 2:13:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're moving in that direction.
- 2:13:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Chief.
- 2:13:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All questions?
- 2:14:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman Lovato, you're still recognized.
- 2:14:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That concludes my report, but I do want to say thank you for your timeliness.
- 2:14:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He gave us back 58 minutes.
- 2:14:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 2:14:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have a Transportation Streets and Garage Committee report.
- 2:14:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman Smith, you're recognized.
- 2:14:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:14:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have the report on January the 8th.
- 2:14:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That's Thursday.
- 2:14:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 2:14:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:14:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Under new business, we have two items.
- 2:14:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Item A, Resolution 38-20-25-26, a resolution approving the appointment of the general manager of the Clarksville Gas Station
- 2:14:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and Water Department.
- 2:14:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Members, you'll recall that pursuant to city code, it was approved by this body to create and name a gas and water board to
- 2:14:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript oversee the operations or the general manager of the gas and water department.
- 2:14:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Their first act was to present this resolution that would name Mark Riggins as the general manager of Clarksville Gas and
- 2:15:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Water, and that's what this resolution is about.
- 2:15:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Is there any, is there a question regarding this resolution from the council?
- 2:15:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, you're recognized.
- 2:15:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I thought he already was the general manager.
- 2:15:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He was.
- 2:15:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So why are we doing this?
- 2:15:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He was until we created the board, and then that required them to present him to the council for approval.
- 2:15:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So if he were to leave, then they would vote and recommend someone to this council, and we would have to approve it or deny it.
- 2:15:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 2:15:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:15:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're welcome.
- 2:15:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any other comment or question regarding this resolution?
- 2:15:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for item B, resolution 39-20-25-26, resolution authorizing an interlocal agreement between the city of Clarksville and the Penny Ryle Regional Energy Agency.
- 2:15:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Put my teeth in so I can talk.
- 2:15:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Chairman McLaughlin, you're recognized.
- 2:15:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor.
- 2:15:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript To make it simpler, and because we've been here a lengthy amount of time, I'd like to ask Mr. Riggins to come forward and give a
- 2:16:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript brief explanation of this.
- 2:16:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Mr. Riggins, you're recognized.
- 2:16:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:16:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, Mayor, council.
- 2:16:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript As some of you may remember, most of you may remember, Gas and Water had plans to run a redundant line from Elkton, Kentucky, to Clarksville.
- 2:16:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This is many years ago.
- 2:16:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We even went through with design.
- 2:16:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We paid Texas pipeline, Texas gas pipeline, for capacity for that for five years.
- 2:16:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And throughout all of that, just to keep it short, we did that.
- 2:16:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We did not pursue that project in the end.
- 2:16:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because of some federal regulations and some confusion and misunderstanding along the way, it was determined that, best that I can remember and tell,
- 2:16:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that we would not be able to serve those residents of Kentucky from there to here, and it just was not the right way to go.
- 2:16:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm proud to say that what we're proposing here, this agreement with PREA, is what this project probably should have been from day one.
- 2:16:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's where PREA is actually running the line, not from Elkton, but from Katy.
- 2:17:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All the way to Clarksville and Guthrie area.
- 2:17:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Reason being is because with that Texas pipeline, through our partnership with PREA and Guthrie, Kentucky, and talking to that Texas pipeline,
- 2:17:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript it will take, in order to get what they need and we need here, it would take considerable upgrades on their infrastructure,
- 2:17:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which we would be at full cost to pay for and others would benefit from.
- 2:17:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We did not like that.
- 2:17:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And PREA, of course, didn't like that as well.
- 2:17:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So they're going all the way to Katy's where they have two 30-inch pipelines with A&R who can serve all the needs of us and many more.
- 2:17:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Again, all the details are in here.
- 2:17:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This has, basically what this does for Clarksville, along with the second water plant that we're building now,
- 2:17:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and the second sewer plant that someday when we're finished with the study that we will design and propose to build,
- 2:17:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript this will provide, like those will,
- 2:18:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript provide redundancy and those that, for water and sewer infrastructure, this will provide redundancy for our gas,
- 2:18:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which is something we've been interested in, of course, like I've said, for many years.
- 2:18:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript These kind of opportunities do not come along very often at all.
- 2:18:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If we were to not do this, I don't know that we'll ever see one in the next 50 years.
- 2:18:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we're very happy to partner with PREA on this.
- 2:18:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We have taken this through our counsel, through our other legal counsel consulting firm,
- 2:18:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript McCarter English out of Washington, D.C. has reviewed this thoroughly,
- 2:18:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and we present this as it is and very happy to do so.
- 2:18:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm happy to answer any questions that he might have.
- 2:18:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Questions for Mr. Riggins regarding this resolution?
- 2:18:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Councilman Smith, you're recognized.
- 2:18:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, Mr. Riggins.
- 2:18:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Keep trying to explain that to me because I still have a question.
- 2:18:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, ma'am.
- 2:18:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So in this inter-local agreement, how is it going to operate?
- 2:18:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Is that comes with y'all putting pipes down?
- 2:19:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Y'all coming together to do this?
- 2:19:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right.
- 2:19:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that's with inter-local coming, you know.
- 2:19:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right.
- 2:19:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But I'm saying, is there going to be money paid for this?
- 2:19:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Y'all both have to, I don't know.
- 2:19:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes.
- 2:19:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So PREA will build the pipeline from Cady's, Kentucky to the state line.
- 2:19:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Okay.
- 2:19:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Which will come approximately where the industrial park is.
- 2:19:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Somewhere, let's say, west of Guthrie Highway, between Guthrie Highway and Tyler Town Road,
- 2:19:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript in that area where the state line is.
- 2:19:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then we will build the infrastructure from the state line that connect to our line in the industrial park.
- 2:19:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's a high-pressure gas line there that we will tie that into.
- 2:19:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript D2 Energy is the consultant for PREA.
- 2:19:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We've hired that same consultant because there's cost savings.
- 2:19:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's no need in having two engineering firms, two consulting firms competing or at odds.
- 2:19:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we hired the same, D2 Energy, to design our side of that meter as well.
- 2:19:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So basically, just like we have meters to a customer if we have gas to your home and there's a meter,
- 2:20:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and then beyond that it's yours, it's the same thing with PREA in reverse.
- 2:20:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They bring the pipeline down, they have a meter, and then from there on it's ours.
- 2:20:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we basically pay for the gas that we take.
- 2:20:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Actually, what we're doing is we'll have a subsequent agreement with A&R,
- 2:20:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript which will purchase the gas from them directly, and then just pay PREA for the transportation,
- 2:20:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript using their line of transport, that gas, from Cady's, Kentucky to here.
- 2:20:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that's what this agreement is for.
- 2:20:32 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The pipeline is under design right now, and this is part of this agreement.
- 2:20:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The need for this is so they can take that, along with other agreements that they're entering into now,
- 2:20:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript to their financers in order to secure the financing.
- 2:20:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript This basically guarantees if they build this line, they're going to receive a certain amount of money
- 2:20:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript from customers along the way, as you can imagine.
- 2:20:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The business plan they have to present to their financers.
- 2:20:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So, if for some reason that pipeline's not built, which I don't foresee that happening,
- 2:21:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript then of course this will never happen, and we'll never pay out any money.
- 2:21:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right. Thank you so much.
- 2:21:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript You're welcome.
- 2:21:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any other comment or question? Thank you, sir.
- 2:21:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:21:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Anything else? Councilman McLaughlin?
- 2:21:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That concludes my report.
- 2:21:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right. Thank you very much.
- 2:21:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're now ready for public comments.
- 2:21:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Our City Code allows three individuals, five minutes each, to address the City Council.
- 2:21:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you'd like to address the Council, please come forward.
- 2:21:26 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Seeing none?
- 2:21:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'll come up there.
- 2:21:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right.
- 2:21:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Looks like you're here.
- 2:21:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Give us your name, and you have five minutes.
- 2:21:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, sir.
- 2:21:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript My name is Dwight Eversall.
- 2:21:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I live up in Dog Hill on First Street.
- 2:21:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've been here for 30 years.
- 2:21:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm retired military, 28 years in the military.
- 2:21:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I want to thank everybody for everything they do here.
- 2:21:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I watch a lot of your meetings.
- 2:21:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I learn a lot.
- 2:21:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I went to the meeting the other day about the well, and that's specifically one that I wanted to talk about.
- 2:21:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I appreciate the people that handled it.
- 2:21:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They handle all these nonprofits and all this outreach and all these great things that we do.
- 2:22:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But we can't always listen to what they say to us and take it as the gospel.
- 2:22:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Sometimes they don't know what's going on, even if they're in charge of those programs or in charge of what they're doing.
- 2:22:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Like we hear the well.
- 2:22:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I live right there a couple doors down.
- 2:22:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've got 14 houses in Dog Hill within that two-block radius.
- 2:22:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I offer affordable housing below half what the market is.
- 2:22:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I've done that for over 30 years.
- 2:22:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That was my passion and the way that I give back.
- 2:22:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I still do that.
- 2:22:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The kid that lives next door pays $375 a month.
- 2:22:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He's been there 15 years.
- 2:22:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I never raised the rent.
- 2:22:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't need to.
- 2:22:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because that's not the way I see what I do.
- 2:22:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I think a lot of these people in the nonprofit world see it the same way.
- 2:22:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know that when we say nonprofit, we think charity.
- 2:22:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But these are businesses.
- 2:22:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they get paid just like you do.
- 2:22:58 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And just like I do.
- 2:22:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And a lot of people do what they do.
- 2:23:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So that's their advocacy.
- 2:23:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I went to this meeting the other day.
- 2:23:05 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they had a testimonial.
- 2:23:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It was an older gentleman.
- 2:23:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I would say probably around 70.
- 2:23:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And he's homeless.
- 2:23:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript His wife, he told us that his wife had passed away.
- 2:23:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They both had received Social Security.
- 2:23:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they could afford to live.
- 2:23:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they could afford their housing.
- 2:23:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript She passed away.
- 2:23:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He could no longer afford it.
- 2:23:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He was a college graduate.
- 2:23:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He said that he had taught for 12 years of college.
- 2:23:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But now he's homeless.
- 2:23:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He received Social Security.
- 2:23:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And he sleeps in a chair down here in the Commons.
- 2:23:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I said, wow.
- 2:23:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That is amazing.
- 2:23:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It could happen to anyone.
- 2:23:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Of course.
- 2:23:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We know that.
- 2:23:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And so I started thinking about it.
- 2:23:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And he works with the ministries, the urban ministries.
- 2:23:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'm thinking, two years he sits in a chair and sleeps under a blanket.
- 2:24:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What have they done for him in two years?
- 2:24:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So it makes me question the effectiveness of some of these programs we have.
- 2:24:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then we hear people come up and say, well, what does DeWell offer?
- 2:24:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I drive by there every day.
- 2:24:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I've done it ever since they opened.
- 2:24:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They used to be really busy.
- 2:24:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They used to have church on Sundays.
- 2:24:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't see that anymore.
- 2:24:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We were told they do that still.
- 2:24:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But they don't.
- 2:24:25 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have some outreach.
- 2:24:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have some clothing that's distributed.
- 2:24:30 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they only serve on Monday and Wednesday, which really has not been a major problem.
- 2:24:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because most of those people that go to DeWell, a lot of them live in my neighborhood.
- 2:24:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have lived in my neighborhood.
- 2:24:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They're not homeless.
- 2:24:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A lot of them receive food stamps.
- 2:24:46 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they receive a check.
- 2:24:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But they say, well, if I can eat for free, then I can sell my food stamps and I can buy.
- 2:24:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I can buy things that I want.
- 2:24:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I say, well, that's not really what they're there for.
- 2:24:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But it also provides some community for them and socialization.
- 2:25:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But now I take people up there every once in a while because they want to stop and get a meal on Monday and Wednesday.
- 2:25:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And sometimes they pick up two meals.
- 2:25:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they have a house.
- 2:25:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have food at home.
- 2:25:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they can drive up right to the door like a drive-thru.
- 2:25:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They can pick up their meal.
- 2:25:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They don't have to stay.
- 2:25:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They don't have to socialize.
- 2:25:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They don't have to talk to nobody.
- 2:25:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They get their meal and they go home.
- 2:25:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't want to say a negative thing about it or a positive thing about it.
- 2:25:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But then I think about I was in the Army.
- 2:25:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I know a lot of people struggle.
- 2:25:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Clarksville is a big city.
- 2:25:35 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But everything has to be right here.
- 2:25:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So I agree with a lot of things I heard from the council people.
- 2:25:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I do think there's some great programs out there.
- 2:25:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But then I've been in Dog Hill for 30 years.
- 2:25:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They took a whole street away and a lot of single-family homes.
- 2:25:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript To expand the jail.
- 2:25:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Then they put a center stone community.
- 2:25:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's not a community center.
- 2:25:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's what I call a transitional home.
- 2:25:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript On the corner of Klein Alley on Union Street.
- 2:26:01 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It's been there for years.
- 2:26:03 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we really haven't had any problem out of those people either.
- 2:26:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then down the hill they put Judy's Hope.
- 2:26:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Right there behind where you want to put and have more services for homeless people.
- 2:26:14 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Or what we call them.
- 2:26:16 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And then you've got up on the hill you've got Buffalo Valley now.
- 2:26:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So we've got a lot of stuff within this small, small area of downtown.
- 2:26:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I think, what about the people in New Providence?
- 2:26:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Aren't they part of Clarksville?
- 2:26:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript What about some people further out?
- 2:26:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Why can't we find a location?
- 2:26:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript $750,000.
- 2:26:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Why can't we find a location?
- 2:26:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Maybe some donated land and build something.
- 2:26:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you, sir. Your time is up.
- 2:26:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you.
- 2:26:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We appreciate it.
- 2:26:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Anyone else wish to address the council?
- 2:26:50 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript If you would, give us your name and you have five minutes.
- 2:26:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And pull that microphone down.
- 2:26:54 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript My name is Joyce Weirich.
- 2:26:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I live, one house is between my home and the well, as y'all like to call it.
- 2:27:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I still refer to it as the Moose Club.
- 2:27:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, we need homeless services in Clarksville.
- 2:27:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But it does not need to be in a residential area.
- 2:27:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I don't care whether it's my area, your area, or anybody else's area.
- 2:27:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It does not need to be touching a residential area.
- 2:27:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There's homes on the other side of the well.
- 2:27:31 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And there's, the map that they put up Friday night was very deceiving.
- 2:27:38 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It showed the downtown area and it showed barely in.
- 2:27:43 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript It did not show that we're a residential area.
- 2:27:48 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're the oldest residential area in Clarksville as far as I know.
- 2:27:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I'm not basing it on that at all.
- 2:27:56 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm basing it on the fact that it should not be in a residential area.
- 2:28:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And anybody that says that they would welcome a homeless shelter in their neighborhood,
- 2:28:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript they're not telling the truth.
- 2:28:13 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have had a lot of issues because of it.
- 2:28:17 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Now, I'm going to get a little gross here.
- 2:28:20 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because this is what I have had to endure because of the well being where it is.
- 2:28:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have had to clean up women's bras, panties, men's underwear, used condoms, used needles, all the trash.
- 2:28:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Because they don't clean up after it.
- 2:28:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript The people that get the services don't care about our neighborhood.
- 2:28:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But, on another token, I was also informed after Friday night's meeting that,
- 2:28:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I was aware that about 2 o'clock Friday morning there were sirens
- 2:29:06 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and I could see the lights out my bedroom window where they stopped on 2nd Street.
- 2:29:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I've now been informed that that was because of a stabbing that occurred somewhere else
- 2:29:19 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and a homeless person had made it that far.
- 2:29:22 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And today I was informed that a restaurant downtown on New Year's Eve,
- 2:29:29 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript people were trying to enjoy dinner and a night out.
- 2:29:34 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And what did they have to endure?
- 2:29:37 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript A homeless person came in.
- 2:29:40 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript That proprietor,
- 2:29:42 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript asked that they leave their business.
- 2:29:45 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they didn't.
- 2:29:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And they asked numerous times for that person to leave their business.
- 2:29:51 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript So what did the homeless person do?
- 2:29:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript He pulled a knife on people.
- 2:29:55 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that is the kind of crap that we have had to put up with
- 2:29:59 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript ever since the well has been located there and feeding the homeless.
- 2:30:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yeah, but I will say, Alan made a perfect point.
- 2:30:08 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript There used to be lots of people
- 2:30:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript that sought the services of the well that no longer.
- 2:30:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And I applaud Councilman Holloman for making the comment that yes,
- 2:30:21 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript we offer this little bit of service and, you know,
- 2:30:24 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript the old saying of give them an inch and they'll take a mile.
- 2:30:28 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that's exactly what's going to happen if expanded services go into that building.
- 2:30:36 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're going to have to be the blunt of the problem.
- 2:30:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript We're going to be on the receiving end of the issues.
- 2:30:44 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And someone told me that I was an angry person.
- 2:30:49 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript No, I'm not an angry person at all.
- 2:30:53 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm very passionate about my home and about my neighborhood
- 2:30:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript and about the city of Clarksville.
- 2:31:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I'm 81 years old.
- 2:31:02 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I have seen lots.
- 2:31:04 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I remember when Clarksville, a lady didn't go downtown on Saturday.
- 2:31:09 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Without hose and heels.
- 2:31:11 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And most of the time, many of them wore hats and gloves.
- 2:31:15 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And now people don't care.
- 2:31:18 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I loved having to walk on Franklin Street
- 2:31:23 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript where you had to elbow your way through the people on the sidewalks.
- 2:31:27 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And that's the kind of Clarksville that I fell passionately in love with.
- 2:31:33 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And we can't have that now because of the homeless people.
- 2:31:39 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript They have a right to walk up and down the streets.
- 2:31:41 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Yes, they have a right to walk up and down the streets just like I do.
- 2:31:47 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript But people don't go downtown because they know they're going to encounter that.
- 2:31:52 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript And the people that have businesses downtown certainly should...
- 2:31:57 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you very much.
- 2:32:00 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Is there anyone else that wishes to address the council?
- 2:32:07 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript All right, we're now ready for council member comments.
- 2:32:10 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript Any member of the council wish to make a comment?
- 2:32:12 in the video (opens in a new tab) Transcript I see none. We are adjourned. See you Thursday.
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